Re: [orca-list] Problem with speech-dispatcher and orca

[Michael Whapples <mwhapples aim com>]

I have to say I agree with you that the central single speech-dispatcher 
server was simpler and seemed to work better, and no pulse also was 
better. Unfortunately as you say, its not the current rage and so to set 
things up as you say is to go against the normal way and so in itself 
can be a bit of a battle as the packages sometimes keep trying to 
reconfigure it back to per user set ups.

Anyway, putting the above to one side, speech-dispatcher and pulseaudio 
do expect to be used (seems to be the default expectation) so they 
really need to sort out the issues, like the one I describe. While these 
sorts of issues exist, this will mean there will still be opposition to 
systems like pulse, as simply they don't work.

Michael Whapples
On -10/01/37 20:59, Steve Holmes wrote:
> I've had problems like that in the past and that's why I set up
> speech-dispatcher to run as a central system service on my machine.  I
> know, that is not the latest rage but you know what? my method works
> all the time and I am not having those problems now.  I also used the
> kludge fixes to keep pulse out of the way and again, my system seems
> more stable because I've done so.  I just got sick and tired of the
> instability of pulse audio.
>
> On Sat, Oct 01, 2011 at 07:16:51PM +0100, Michael Whapples wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I am not sure if this is an orca or speech-dispatcher issue, so that
> > is why I am posting to both lists.
> >
> > The problem is, there are occasions when speech-dispatcher seems to
> > be left running and then later starts of orca will not come up
> > speaking. Here is what I am doing which I think always reproduces
> > the issue.
> >
> > 1. Start gnome using startx.
> > 2. Start orca (if not set to have orca start automatically, I have
> > orca start automatically).
> > 3. Logout of gnome (IE. logout, so it goes back to the text
> > console). When doing this do not stop/quit orca before doing it,
> > assume you are a user who needs orca to find logout.
> > 4. Restart gnome with startx.
> > 5. Start orca (again if not set to have orca start automatically).
> >
> > Expected: the second start of orca you expect orca will speak
> > Actual: The second start of orca it does not speak (Braille is still
> > working).
> >
> > Temporary work around: From a gnome-terminal type "killall
> > speech-dispatcher" and orca will start speaking.
> >
> > It seems like logging out of gnome speech-dispatcher is not stopped
> > properly and the new log in does not let orca connect to the
> > existing speech-dispatcher.
> >
> > I do not know if this is an issue that orca is not releasing
> > speech-dispatcher properly, or whether it is something
> > speech-dispatcher is not doing properly. I possibly would say even
> > if it is an orca issue, might it be worth speech-dispatcher
> > protecting against applications not stopping use of
> > speech-dispatcher properly, and so possibly stopping other clients
> > on the system from speaking.
> >
> > I understand speech-dispatcher on my system is using the launch
> > speech-dispatcher on request and so is per user. Also my system uses
> > pulseaudio (as gnome 3 seems to force one into using it).
> >
> > Michael Whapples
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