Re: [orca-list] Braille WAS Re: A question for a traceback error message prewenting related

[Steve Holmes <steve holmes88 gmail com>]

I do programming on both mainframes and my personal linux systems at
home and use speech for all of it.  I can't personally aford the
extremely high prices for a braille display.  I can see how
productivity would improve but I have to evaluate the payback.  I
started out using an Optacon with a CRT lense to read the screen.
then speech came along and performance improved significantly.  

I think a big drop in braille dissplay prices could really prove to be
a boom for blind programmers and proof readers.

On Wed, Nov 02, 2011 at 06:52:26PM +0100, Hammer Attila wrote:
> Hey Tami,
>
> Usual, when I coding, I more often using only speech support, but
> for example in Gedit Orca application related preferences I checket
> the speak indentation and justification check box. The adwantage
> this application-dependent preference modification I see real time
> for example I not mistaked the Python code implementation for
> example an if or else statement block, or inside a code.
> This is happening possible because I prewious years I not have
> braille display before I not get an oldest braille display my
> friend, in hungary the braille displays unfortunately is very
> expensive.
> When I looking longer hungarian texts, or reviewing I doed any
> application related hungarian translations, I more time using Orca
> braille support with contracted braille feature with my testing
> hungarian contracted braille table.
> For example, when I surfing internet, more time I using Orca with
> braille, because some time fastest clicking a link if I browsing the
> braille display, if I want opening a link, enough to press the
> cursor cell button my braille display the link beginning letter.
> So, I both use Orca with speech and braille support, depending my
> needs and what the fastest method a task related.
>
> Some time, if need fast reviewing a screen or a terminal window, I
> using braille related flat review operations, because all
> importanter tasks are possible managing with my oldest Alwa Satelite
> braille display buttons.
> For example, when you editing a text, if you do an unwanted mistake
> the text, enough to press proper cursor cell key and the cursor land
> of the important mistaked text part.
>
> I don't no, what other braille related features are would like other
> braille users with now missing in Orca braille support, but if my
> Python knowledges are prowide possibilities and if I have enough
> free time, i trying future doing a missing feature if anybody send
> me an interesting braille enhancement related bugreport link.
> Perhaps I think a sayall style braille related feature future is
> useful, if an user reading braille with longer texts, if technical
> this is possible. Now, Orca have a braille flash time related
> setting. If possible doing a braille related binding this type
> function, I think enough to scroll down braille display for example
> with flash time gived time periods automaticaly, and the continous
> reading for braille displays is possible future very easy with Orca
> without need manual forward scrolling the braille display. This
> feature perhaps useful if any braille user would like reading for
> example books with Orca with contracted braille support.
>
> Some already speech support awailable features future braille
> implementation I think perhaps not useful for more users with have
> only smallest braille display, for example the tutorial messages
> related feature. With braille display the character count is
> limited. If you for example have only a 20 cell braille display and
> if the tutorial messages will be presenting braille display, you
> will be not seeing other important informations without you backward
> scrolling the braille display.
>
> Sorry the little offtopic longer answer, and I hope I not mistake
> understanding your letter.
> Hopefuly more users writing you more experiences,
>
> Attila
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