Re: [orca-list] Orca 3 and Firefox

[Steve Holmes <steve holmes88 gmail com>]

Well, I don't do Jaws but in Window-Eyes, the insert key plus the
arrow keys move around in tables; that's why I came up with the idea.
if nothing else, I would consider doing it on a personal basis until
gtk gets fixed.  Otherwise, we cannot navigate tables with Orca.  God
knows when the bugs in gtk can be fixed.

On 5/19/11, Speedy <speedychair live com> wrote:
> Switching the table navigation keys to Alt + Control + arrow keys like
> JAWS and Windowize has a conflict in orca.  The Alt + Control + Left or
> Right Arrow keys switch between desktops.  I use both of these features
> all of the time.  In JAWS, I use table navigation so much I wrote a
> script to hold down the Alt + Control keys when I toggle it on in a
> table.  Then I can just arrow around the table like a spreadsheet.  I
> use Control + Shift + t to toggle this mode on and off.
>
>
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> On 5/18/2011 6:30 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
> > That is good news indeed.  In the meantime, one could remap the table
> > navigation keys to ones that don't use the alt+shift combinations like
> > Window-Eyes does.  Maybe I could use Orca+Arrow keys if they aren't
> > already taken.
> >
> > Are these fixed committed in the gnome-e-0 branch?
> >
> > On 5/18/11, Mike Gorse<mgorse alum wpi edu>  wrote:
> > > Hi Steve,
> > >
> > > Fyi, there were several issues with AT-SPI2 and tables and collections.
> > > I've fixed all of the issues you mentioned except for alt+shift+arrow
> > > keys
> > > not working.  I'm still struggling with that one--it seems that gtk
> > > doesn't register alt and shift as being down at the same time when
> > > AT-SPI2
> > > is being used, and I don't understand why at the moment.
> > >
> > > -Mike
> > >
> > > On Thu, 5 May 2011, Steve Holmes wrote:
> > >
> > > > Joanie, I would normally do this but since my box has gone up to
> > > > gnome3, I didn't think I could use those older versions of Orca
> > > > anymore.  Correct me if I'm wrong:).
> > > >
> > > > An update on my structural navigation observations, I went to my
> > > > www.bookshare.org page and logged in.  I discovered that I could use
> > > > 'h' to jump from header to header but when I pressed number keys to
> > > > jump to a specific header level, then it is ignored. Also, when I
> > > > would type 't' to jump to a table, it was also ignored.  this morning,
> > > > while inside a table, it appeared to ignore the table navigation keys
> > > > of the Shift+Alt arrow keys.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 06:58:40PM -0400, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > > > > Hi Steve.
> > > > >
> > > > > > I don't recall how to switch back to CORBA, should that be necessary.
> > > > > Well, another test just w.r.t. web stuff might be to build an earlier
> > > > > version of Orca. If you leave everything the same and try the version
> > > > > of
> > > > > Orca in which structural navigation used to work for you, and suddenly
> > > > > your problem goes away, that should enable us to pin it down quickly.
> > > > > <smile>
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks and take care.
> > > > > --joanie
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