Re: [orca-list] An interesting Orca/FF4 issue

[Michael Whapples <mwhapples aim com>]

Hello,
In fact the problem with that UKAD site shows up on the Mac as well, so is not orca/firefox specific.

I will check the site originally mentioned with some other combinations of browser/screen reader.

Michael Whapples
On 12 May 2011, at 12:01, Mallory van Achterberg wrote:

> Hm, this ukad.org page does have a complete doctype and the headers are technically correct 
> (tho strange).  The skip links are using an old-fashioned name attribute which, while
> no longer encouraged, should not screw up Firefox or Orca.  Everything I find code-wise
> on that page *should* work.
>
> -Mallory
> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 04:04:55PM +0100, Michael Whapples wrote:
> > Hello,
> > Firstly I do see this issue as well and I do see it on other websites (eg. 
> > http://www.ukad.org.uk/pages/therapeutic-use-exemptions/).
> >
> > I know that the change to at-spi2 has caused some other issues with firefox/HTML type things so I will 
> > have a look (or if you could even better) using at-spi on corba.
> >
> > What I am trying to do is pin down a change of software which causes this. I have tried with newer 
> > versions of firefox but the bug is still seen. Did it work with older versions of firefox?
> >
> > If we can say it seems to be orca, then while may be the website could do something which works (eg. the 
> > bbc homepage has headings with links which orca speaks correctly) it may still be worth orca being changed 
> > for this case as it seems common enough that we couldn't chase down all who do this.
> >
> > Michael Whapples
> > On 01/-10/37 20:59, Hammer Attila wrote:
> > > Hy,
> > >
> > > I see an interesting issue for a webpage when I using Orca and Firefox 4.0, with I don't understand why 
> > > happening:
> > > With my Natty system, following website Orca does'nt spokening link roletype for heading level links, 
> > > only spokening heading level text and heading level number:
> > > http://pcx.hu/termek/asus-eeepc-1018p-blk141s-fekete-notebook-69229
> > > Of course, when I jumping structural navigation keys with a this type heading level link, possible 
> > > activating the link for ENTER key.
> > >
> > > This is happening because the webpage is mistake designed for accessibility related, or this is a hidden 
> > > Firefox4 issue? Prewious I newer see this type issue with other webpages, only I think two page I see 
> > > this experience now (other page is a mobile prowider webpage, some time Orca doesn't spokening link role 
> > > type the prowider webpage for arrow keys).
> > > Not only Orca master version I see this issue, 3.0.0 Ubuntu packaged Orca version producing equals result 
> > > this webpage. Hopefuly Orca and Firefox side this is not a bug and only happening the problem because 
> > > mistake designed the webpage.
> > >
> > > I attached a debug.out file. What showing the debug.out file for Orca side when I jumping for example 
> > > heading levels this problematic page? If I see right, when I jump this page a heading level link, Orca 
> > > does'nt detecting this role type is a heading level link, detecting the object is a normal heading level 
> > > role.
> > > Other pages Orca detecting right the heading level links, an example:
> > > LOCUS OF FOCUS: app='Firefox' name='EljÃhet az idÅ, amikor nem lesznek bÃkÃsek a rendvÃdelmi tÃntetÃsek' 
> > > role='link'
> > > event=None
> > > KEYEVENT: type=1
> > > id=104
> > > hw_code=43
> > > modifiers=8192
> > > event_string=(h)
> > > is_text=True
> > > timestamp=3799306
> > > time=1304953553.928479
> > > KEYBOARDEVENT: type=1
> > > id=104
> > > hw_code=43
> > > modifiers=0
> > > event_string=(h)
> > > keyval_name=(h)
> > > is_text=True
> > > timestamp=3799306
> > > time=1304953553.928884
> > > orca.isModifierKey: returning: False
> > > ----------> QUEUEING 1 'h' (43)
> > > ----------> QUEUEING FOCUS:
> > > ----------> QUEUEING OBJECT:STATE-CHANGED:FOCUSED
> > > ----------> QUEUEING OBJECT:TEXT-CARET-MOVED
> > >
> > > generate braille for focused app.name='Firefox' name='EljÃhet az idÅ, amikor nem lesznek bÃkÃsek a 
> > > rendvÃdelmi tÃntetÃsek' role='link' state='enabled focusable focused horizontal opaque sensitive showing 
> > > visible' relations='' (args={'formatType': 'focused', 'useDefaultFormatting': False, 'includeContext': 
> > > False, 'role': ROLE_LINK, 'mode': 'braille', 'recursing': True}) using '[Link(obj, 
> > > asString(currentLineText) or asString(displayedText) or asString(name))]'
> > > currentLineText=['Elj\xc3\xb6het az id\xc5\x91, amikor nem lesznek b\xc3\xa9k\xc3\xa9sek a 
> > > rendv\xc3\xa9delmi t\xc3\xbcntet\xc3\xa9sek']
> > > generate braille results:
> > > Link: 'Elj`ohet az id'\x0151'`1 amikor nem lesznek b`ek`esek a r5dv`edelmi t`untet`esek', 0
> > > BRAILLE LINE: 'Elj`ohet az id'\x0151'`1 amikor nem lesznek b`ek`esek a r5dv`edelmi t`untet`esek ;h#a'
> > > VISIBLE: '', cursor=0
> > > SPEECH OUTPUT: 'EljÃhet az idÅ, amikor nem lesznek bÃkÃsek a rendvÃdelmi tÃntetÃsek hivatkozÃs 1. cÃmsor 
> > > szint' voice=system
> > >
> > > Attila
> >
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