Re: [orca-list] Gnome-Shell Distaster!!!

[Steve Holmes <steve holmes88 gmail com>]

Yeah, my Arch system upgraded all the existing gnome packages to the
gnome 3 level but gnome-shell hadn't been added automatically so when
I was originally testing gnome 3 on my system, I was actually using
the "Fallback mode" they speak of.  Well, I hadn't realized that until
I read the Arch wiki this morning on gnome 3 and it discusses the use
of gnome-shell.  It interested me so I went out and installed the arch
package for gnome-shell and then it all fell apart.  Fortunately, I
just removed gnome-shell package and I'm at least back to the implied
fallback mode.  So I have applications and places menu and the system
menu (what's left of it) is somewhere out there in space and I'm able
to snag part of it from the top panel.  I'll sure be glad when the
a11y stuff gets stabilized again.  Right now, Microsoft has the last
laugh.

On Sun, May 08, 2011 at 03:58:24PM -0400, Dave Hunt wrote:
> I had the impression that Gnome 3 and Gnome Shell were, sort-of
> synonymous.  Given your Gnome 3 experience, I'm glad they're not.
> Still looking to give Gnome 3 a spin.  Ubuntu's Unity is not Gnome
> Shell, and its Classic Gnome is not Gnome 3.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> On 05/08/2011 12:53 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
> > Sorry for replying to myself here but I held back the lava so to
> > speak.  I uninstalled gnome-shell from my system and got back to
> > at least, what I was using before the disaster.  Does this mean that
> > Orca is not ready for gnome-shell yet? Is gnome-shell still completely
> > broken as far as a11y is concerned?  I'm doing all this with Orca
> > 3.01; I will be building orca-git from the 3.0 branch today to see if
> > that is any better but I figured that right now that production
> > Orca-3.01 would be fairly close to the git version, right?
> >
> > One interesting thing through all this was the hardware keys on my
> > laptop which will launch Calculator, Girefox and Thunderbird seem to
> > work unaffected by these shell changes.  So even with gnome-shell
> > completely broken as it is right now, I was able to launch firefox
> > <smile>.
> >
> > On Sun, May 08, 2011 at 09:16:24AM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
> > > Well I seem to have really done it in now.
> > >
> > > I was reading the GNOME_3 notes in the Arch wiki and when I came
> > > across the notes concerning gnome-shell, I thought I'd take the plunge
> > > and install gnome-shell and restart gnome.  BAD, BAD, BAD!!!
> > >
> > > I can't access anything now! Everything I try iether gives me "panel"
> > > every time I type the tab key or even the run dialog says something
> > > nothing now.  After I did a shift+ctrl+F3 to get back to a good
> > > working text console to edit this message, I tried to go back to
> > > review the mess in more detail and now I can't get hardly any speech
> > > at all.  Orca really fell over on this one! At this point, I can't do
> > > anything in GNOME! I guess I could uninstall gnome-shell and hopefully
> > > I might get back to that broken fallback stuff.
> > >
> > > I thought gnome-shell was ready for use with Orca; was I wrong in that
> > > assumtion?
> > >
> > > Thanks for any help here.
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