Re: [orca-list] Website layouts and orca

["mattias" <mj mjw se>]

So you can change layout?
Exact how?

-----Original Message-----
From: orca-list-bounces gnome org [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On
Behalf Of Dave Hunt
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 9:17 PM
To: Christopher Chaltain
Cc: orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Website layouts and orca


Hi,

Orca presents web content as it is, with no pre-processing.  Processing 
is left to the browser.  I suppose you could use an xsl style sheet that 
puts certain elements, each on its own line, and tell firefox to use it, 
instead of styles that come with the page you're viewing.  Emacs-W3 has 
this ability, and you can toggle it.


Best Regards,


Dave




On 21/06/11 15:11, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> There are times I definitely like the way Orca presents the layout of 
> web pages. In Google Calendar for example, when I'm looking at the 
> list of attendees for a meeting, I can tell which buttons and links 
> are associated with each attendee by using flat review. At other 
> times, it's made reading a page a challenge, such as when the text of 
> an article is in one column of a table and links to other articles 
> runs down the side of a page in another column. Maybe I just need to 
> learn how to navigate HTML tables in Orca better.
>
> BTW, I must be mistaken, but I thought NVDA presented web pages in a 
> fashion similar to Orca. I've seen others mention that it doesn't 
> though, and I haven't used NVDA on the web much, so I just must be 
> mistaken.
>
> On 21/06/11 13:56, Andy B. wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > I am sort of confused. I do web development for a living. I recently 
> > migrated to ubuntu permanently because of a Windows crash that wiped 
> > my drive out totally. I am used to the way that JAWS, WE, NVDA and 
> > all of the other types of windows based screen readers lay out the 
> > pages virtual buffer. In this case, by default they are set to 
> > display a single element on a line by itself. Examples are individual 
> > links, table columns flash players, headings and so on.
> >
> > It looks like orca lays it out just like a sighted person were to see 
> > it. The problem is that it gets very confusing to find/get to 
> > different places on the page and it is hard to understand the layout 
> > of the page itself. An example is in drupal 7. When signed in as 
> > super user (user1), and looking at the homepage of a stock install, 
> > it looks like you have headings on the left side of the screen and 
> > links on the right side of the screen that are somehow related to the 
> > headings on the left. Like I said, I am used to being fed a page with 
> > individual elements on a line by itself. Does anyone have any ideas 
> > how I can get over this and be able to get around on pages just as 
> > fast? _______________________________________________
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