Re: [orca-list] Website layouts and orca



It's not an Orca thing, it's a Firefox thing.  You'd have to find or make a stylesheet that does what you want, re:  accessibility-optimized layouts, then use this extension.  I do not do this, but, since it came up, I did a little googling.


YMMV,


Dave




On 21/06/11 15:19, mattias wrote:
So you can change layout?
Exact how?

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Hi,

Orca presents web content as it is, with no pre-processing.  Processing 
is left to the browser.  I suppose you could use an xsl style sheet that 
puts certain elements, each on its own line, and tell firefox to use it, 
instead of styles that come with the page you're viewing.  Emacs-W3 has 
this ability, and you can toggle it.


Best Regards,


Dave




On 21/06/11 15:11, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
There are times I definitely like the way Orca presents the layout of 
web pages. In Google Calendar for example, when I'm looking at the 
list of attendees for a meeting, I can tell which buttons and links 
are associated with each attendee by using flat review. At other 
times, it's made reading a page a challenge, such as when the text of 
an article is in one column of a table and links to other articles 
runs down the side of a page in another column. Maybe I just need to 
learn how to navigate HTML tables in Orca better.

BTW, I must be mistaken, but I thought NVDA presented web pages in a 
fashion similar to Orca. I've seen others mention that it doesn't 
though, and I haven't used NVDA on the web much, so I just must be 
mistaken.

On 21/06/11 13:56, Andy B. wrote:
Hi.

I am sort of confused. I do web development for a living. I recently 
migrated to ubuntu permanently because of a Windows crash that wiped 
my drive out totally. I am used to the way that JAWS, WE, NVDA and 
all of the other types of windows based screen readers lay out the 
pages virtual buffer. In this case, by default they are set to 
display a single element on a line by itself. Examples are individual 
links, table columns flash players, headings and so on.

It looks like orca lays it out just like a sighted person were to see 
it. The problem is that it gets very confusing to find/get to 
different places on the page and it is hard to understand the layout 
of the page itself. An example is in drupal 7. When signed in as 
super user (user1), and looking at the homepage of a stock install, 
it looks like you have headings on the left side of the screen and 
links on the right side of the screen that are somehow related to the 
headings on the left. Like I said, I am used to being fed a page with 
individual elements on a line by itself. Does anyone have any ideas 
how I can get over this and be able to get around on pages just as 
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