Hi. Here is a patch for testing the two widget types (treeview and menu) for the list feature. It is not the final version! Regardless of the debate on the shortcut I used Orca+Ctrl+F8 for the tree view and Orca+Ctrl+F9 for the popup menu. To test the two versions this should not be a problem. Based on the overall list, which is used in the patch: Separators usually have not a name. They would appear in the list always as unnamed. Currently the patch includes separators. But I don't think this is usefull. If you use structural navigation you get the context of separators, too. For the lists this is not possible. I do not know how important for you it is to distinguish between headings. The patch currently only lists headings on generally. Should there are still entries for the different levels, too? The links are in the current list summarized below links and again classified separately under visited and unvisited links. The distinction makes sense in the structural navigation. Does it makes sense in the list, too? Same question for the form fields. Which are summarized below form fields, and again classified separately under the type. The menu entries for the object types have a mnemonic that corresponds to the key for the structural navigation. Excepting the form fields ("Tab" can't be a mnemonic) and live regions (the title doesn't includes "D"). This is next to the two-step shortcut. Please test the patch and then tell which version is more comfortable and what you say about the different things.. For the menu, the shortcut Orca+Menu would be close. Could remember quite simple. Or is that too difficult on a laptop? I mean, the buttons are always quite different on laptops. Why I think for (+) and against (-) a tree view: + in a tree view, you can search and filter items + isers of other screen readers would be familiar with the tree view - entries in a tree view have not a mnemonic - Orca currently can't speak the search results Why I think for (+) and against (-) a menu: + entries in menus have mnemonics + lesser code required + users of the FF addon would be familiar with the menu - you can not filter or search through menus Greetings Marcus
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