Re: [orca-list] Accessibility of gnome-term

[Alex Midence <alex midence gmail com>]

Hi, Sebastian,

Personally, I have found it more productive to use Yasr in xterm for
pulling things up in a terminal than gnome-terminal with Orca unless I
am using it for rather basic command line work.  If, however, I am
pulling up an editor or other terminal application in my x-session, I
prefer the superior support I get from a console screen reader like
Yasr.  There's not even any comflict between the two screen readers
because Orca can't read xterm so, it's cool.  Orca is great for things
like Open Office, Rhythmbox, Evolution and other GUI-based apps.
Also, like I said, for basic command line stuff like installing a
package, doing some system maintenance, or that sort of thing, Orca
does just fine with the Gnome terminal.

Regards,
Alex M

On 4/23/11, Sébastien Hinderer <Sebastien Hinderer ens-lyon org> wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I am starting to use gnome-term a bit more often than I did in the past.
> I noticed several accessibility issues which seem to be related to
> ATSPI. For instance, as far as I understood, the protocol is only able
> to inform screen readers of changes, not of the initial situation. What
> this means is that when I open a gnome-term before running a screen
> reader, I have to tab to another window after the screen reader has ben
> run and then come back to the gnome-term so that it is detected
> properly.
>
> Another issue has to do with cursor. There is a known bug in ATSPI, that
> has been reported several years ago, which makes the cursor to be
> reported at the wrong position when it is at the top of the screen (the
> problem shows up in an editor such as emacswhen run from a gnometerm;
> when a file is opened, the screen reader says the cursor is at the
> bottom right of the sceen whereas the visible cursor is at line 1, row
> 1). There seem to be other cursor-related issues, e.g. the braille
> window does not follow the cursor as it should.
>
> Finally, my question is this: are there still some development efforts
> put in ATSPI version 1, or will these issues simply never be fixed
> because all the efforts are put on ATSPI 2.
> Do some of you have an experience with ATSPI 2 ? Is its rendering of
> terminals better than the one provided by ATSPI ?
>
> Many thanks in advance for any feedback,
> Sébastien.
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