Re: [orca-list] When does navigation become available in Firefox

[Joanmarie Diggs <joanmarie diggs gmail com>]

Hey Nolan.

> 1. When exactly does it happen? If I could tell either the Diaspora
> folks or my web server developers something like "Orca does its own
> focus management to work around firefox a11y issues, and doesn't make
> keyboard navigation commands available until all remote assets are
> loaded and event X is received from Firefox," then that may give me
> something more tangible to say in the bug reports. Right now, all I can
> say is "pages aren't keyboard navigable in many instances until I press
> escape if I run Orca," which is a bit less substantial.

Orca ignores focus-related events from within the document frame if the
page claims to still be loading (as indicated by the document frame
having ATK_STATE_BUSY). If memory serves me, that was necessary because
people would start navigating and then suddenly find themselves back at
the top of the page or elsewhere.

> 2. Given that I've occasionally experienced this issue on
> correctly-configured servers, I wonder if there might be another way
> around it?

We could always implement a settings.allBetsAreOffGoodLuck option.
<silly grin>

All kidding aside, I'm hesitant to make this super-easy to ignore simply
because we'll get far more complaints from confused users than we will
get thanks from hackers accessing slow servers. But if you feel you
simply must be able to override this option.... Please file a bug.

Thanks.
--joanie