Re: [orca-list] The value for orca to have time information in the debug files

[Michael Whapples <mwhapples aim com>]

Hello,
Yes I think being able to post extra messages into the debug would be 
useful. Remember you will get a whole bundle of events associated to the 
action of inserting the user message, therefore it may be worth 
considering how you can minimise these (e.g. might it be cleaner in the 
debug if it was a key stroke to insert a predetermined message rather 
than having a dialog open, etc).

As for the timing information, I opened the enhancement request 634460 
which contains an initial patch which is more to start discussion rather 
than be the solution (IE. that patch won't allow easy turning on and off 
time information, is time the best module for this job, etc).

Michael Whapples
On -10/01/37 20:59, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote:
> Hi Steve.
> Insert user messages on the fly to the debug log is very useful.
>
> On 11/09/2010 11:42 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
> > I also like the idea of time stamps in the debug log.
> >
> > Also, I asked a while back on the list about adding a feature where we
> > could insert user messages on the fly to the debug log.  But I never
> > got a single answer if anyone would want.  I've not been seeing much
> > feedback to some of these questions lately.  I would like to add this
> > feature because when one generates a huge long debug output file, one
> > can easily get lost in there and not know where a given segment of the
> > debug session begins.  I'm thinking of adding a dialog like the Find
> > dialog to prompt for user text and it could be inserted into the debug
> > log at that point in time and then go on with my testing.  Since I
> > never heard any objections, I think I will open a RFE bug and proceed
> > with the idea.  I just find the debug out file to end up too
> > combersome at times and then I can't find where certain events are.
> >
> > I also think it might be an easier path to get into coding changes to
> > Orca.
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 04:44:43PM -0200, José Vilmar Estácio de 
> > Souza wrote:
> > > Hi.
> > > I think that is a good idea.
> > >
> > > On 11/09/2010 04:26 PM, Michael Whapples wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > > This is something which I had wondered about for a little, why
> > > > does orca not have time information in its debug messages? Many
> > > > other applications do (eg. the java logging API I think includes
> > > > time information by default, speech-dispatcher's log files contain
> > > > time information, etc).
> > > >
> > > > Why I am asking this now is that I think the addition of it may
> > > > have helped me work out one of the slow points of orca (for those
> > > > curious when navigating the thunderbird message list, bug
> > > > #633104).
> > > >
> > > > If people feel this may be of use in orca shall I send my patch?
> > > >
> > > > Michael Whapples
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