Re: [orca-list] firefox accessibility now a suspense with orca.

[hackingKK <hackingkk gmail com>]

Hi Bil,
all that you explained is fine.  I perfectly understand what the problem 
is, but then ff3.6 should be consistently bad.
my problem is that some times it is extremly good and some times it is 
irritatingly bad on the same web page.

By the way, which version of Vinux has the patch?
Happy hacking.
Krishnakant.

On Monday 31 May 2010 09:34 PM, Bill Cox wrote:
> Hi, Krishnakant.  In short, FF 3.6 includes a rewrite of the
> focus/caret code.  The biggest change impacting us seems to be a
> restriction that disallows "non-focusable" objects like paragraphs to
> ever get the focus.  The first impact of this is that in FF 3.6, Orca
> was unable to set the caret in a paragraph, because the Firefox code
> just called "take focus" to do this, which no longer works.  I've
> fixed this, with a patch that is pending review, but it's not included
> in any Firefox release yet.  It's available now to Vinux users.
>
> Once this bug is fixed, structural navigation seems to work well, but
> you have to turn off "grab focus on object" in the Firefox Orca
> preferences tab.  The next most annoying bug for me is that when I
> switch to Firefox with Alt+Tab, often Orca doesn't know Firefox has
> the focus.  This is because Firefox is suppose to fire a focus event
> as soon as it gets an activate-window event.  If the caret is in a
> paragraph or other "non-focusable" element, then that event never
> comes, and Orca leaves it's "locus of focus" on the previously
> selected application, and refuses to read what's going on in Firefox.
>
> Bill
>
> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 11:49 AM, hackingKK<hackingkk gmail com>  wrote:
>    
> > hello all,
> > Off late I have got some real interesting behaviour with Orca.
> > I have 2 versions of firefox running on my system, version 3.5 and 3.6 from
> > Ubuntu repository.
> > the best part is that some times the same page with ff3.6 works very well
> > and some times it is totally impossible to manage the same page with the
> > same version of ff.
> > I know that the latter behaviur has been reported and known as a bug/. But
> > what interests me is the inconsistantly good or bad performance.
> > take google for example.
> > I have consistant behavior under ff3.5 but some times 3.6 is extremly fast
> > and smooth on the same page and some times it is extremly irritating.
> > one thing which I did before writing this email is first ran 3.5 and surffed
> > the net.  after that when I run 3.6,  all goes well.
> > what could be the reason for this suspense>
> > happy hacking.
> > Krishnakant.
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