Re: [orca-list] What distro would people like me to cover in some audio walkthroughs

[Michael Whapples <mwhapples aim com>]

Hello,
Bill, and some others, you have made interesting points about vinux, may 
be to an extent I am looking at it from the wrong angle. You seem to say 
that much of the accessibility implementation in vinux gets fed back 
into ubuntu, rather than being a speciality distro, its a test bed for 
implementing accessibility and proof to ubuntu developers of what works. 
However I would still stand by my comments that ideally things could be 
done closer between the two (eg. Joanie's comment about the package 
manager in OpenSolaris, however may be that's a special case as she 
points out one of the developers did do some work on the accessibility 
infrastructure so may appreciate the importance of accessibility). I 
hope over time ubuntu developers may become closer to vinux developers 
and so possibly avoid the lag of putting it in vinux and waiting for 
ubuntu to take back.

Also, thanks for the comments, I had a few others saying they found the 
GRML guide good. I do appreciate feed back, good or bad, so long as it 
is constructive (if you don't understand something, try and tell me why, 
was it I was unclear in what I meant, did I seem to assume too much 
prior knowledge, etc).

Michael Whapples
On 01/-10/-28163 08:59 PM, Bill Cox wrote:
> Hi, Michael.  I certainly respect your point of view regarding Vinux.
> I'll also put in a vote for Arch Linux, as I've heard good things
> about it's accessiblity, and I happen to like what I've read by the
> guy in charge of Arch Linux accessibility.  I also agree that the goal
> should be achieving excellent accessibility in the main distros, not
> pushing the blind into a specialty distro.  But I do want to mention
> why I feel so strongly about contributing to Vinux, since I keep
> hearing this idea that specialty distros are a bad idea.
>
> IMO, the most powerful way for me to improve accessibility in the
> major Linux distros is through contributing to Vinux.  I'm sure I
> don't need to explain how often our advice to the major distros is
> ignored.  Often, accessibility gets worse, rather than better, and
> there's little we have been able to do about it.  In Vinux, any of us
> can fix any problems that comes up, and we can test any new accessible
> Linux technology.  So far, every single package fix we've first tested
> and proved in Vinux/Ubuntu Lucid has been incorporated into Ubuntu
> Lucid, if Lucid installs that package by default.  Ubuntu, with much
> thanks to  Luke, is proving very willing to work with us.  I see it as
> our job in Vinux land to make that as simple as possible.
>
> Anyway, thanks for your audio walk-throughs, and all your other
> contributions I see all over the net.  Count me as a fan.  When I
> first found my sight was degrading, I think I found your audio
> walk-throughs among the first signs on the Internet that there is life
> for Linux users after vision loss.  Also, these are just my thoughts,
> but it's Tony's that count for Vinux.  He may have somewhat different
> motivations and inspirations for Vinux.
>
> Bill
>
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