That feature is working fine for me. In fact, if one uses one of the
other bullet styles of bullets, it will give a different description of
those bulletd items. To get that extra detail however, you need to go
to the bug where I posted a patch and apply with 'git am
<patch-file>' in a local git branch to get the additional
coverage. The fix Joanie applied works great but with Speech
Dispatcher and OpenTTS, you need to turn punctuation to 'all' to get it
to work fully. My patch corrects that additional problem.
Click here
for the bug containing the patch.
On 06/11/2010 10:00 AM, Chris Gilland wrote:
I mean, it's not really that big of a deal, don't get me
wrong, it's just I'd kind a like to know that something is bulleted. I
don't like having to guess it's bulleted vs. oh, there really indeed is
a question mark there.
Again, it's not that big of a deal, but it is something that needs to
maybe be looked into, or again, is my pc just being stupid.
You know, I will say this,
I did update Orca as I said to the latest build, using git clone.
I wonder if maybe in the latest build I would a gotten maybe some
things got broken. I really highly doubt it, inceedibly seriously,
actually, but I'm not going to discount anything at this time and
place.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Holmes"
<steve holmes88 gmail com>
To: <orca-list gnome org>
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Bullets and Numbering in OOo Writer
I never heard "??" at any time before or
after the change. But to
answer Bill's part below, I didn't give key echo any thought because I
was mainly addressing text being spoken when you cursor over the
document. I usually use echo by word when typing; I'll have to
checkout echoing of keystrokes by char the next time I'm in Orca. I'm
doing this mail from the console right now so my results vary.
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 10:18:52AM -0400, Chris Gilland wrote:
You know, I have a sort a strange issue as
well with this. Seems
when there is a bulleted list, Orca says question? Before everything
instead of announcing it's a bullet.
I thought that was kind a bizarre.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Cox"
<waywardgeek gmail com>
To: "Orca E-mail List" <orca-list gnome org>
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Bullets and Numbering in OOo Writer
I still get somewhat goofy behavior I can't explain after the patch.
With Key Echo enabled, now both espeak and voxin say "capital" as I
type. It was pretty annoying, but when I turned off key echo, and
enabled "echo by character", it seems to work ok.
Bill
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 8:42 PM, Steve Holmes
<steve holmes88 gmail com> wrote:
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>Yeah, there might be some other fall-out with character
substitution.
>I was trying to get the speech dispatcher modules to behave more
like
>gnome-speech since it seems that gnome-speech does a better job
with
>substitution of characters. See, formerly in the speech dispatcher
>modules, character pronunciation is left up to the synthesizer. In
>the case of the bullet styles used in Open Office, the synth did
not
>have descriptions available for at least one style I know of for
>sure. So I examined the gnome-speech factory module and took out
what
>I needed. There was a lot of extra stuff, it seemed, in
gnome-speech
>which I do not comprehend fully. So I might have introduced some
bugs
>with this patch. I'll have to try out Thunderbird some and see how
it
>goes. I was in firefox long enough to update the bug report and
>upload the patch and I didn't encounter any problems there so far.
>
>On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 09:00:14PM -0300, jose vilmar estacio de
>souza wrote:
>>Hi.
>>After apply the patch I began to hear "no break space" when
reading
>>messages in thunderbird.
>>
>>On 06/01/2010 07:34 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
>>>Hey, the recent changes were committed to master where
bullets and
>>>numbers were spoken in Writer but if one used Speech
Dispatcher or
>>>OpenTTS, he or she would not hear them unless punctuation
was set
>>>to "All". And even then, some bullet styles would still not
>>>speak. I have sent up a patch to Bugzilla for you all to
test.
>>>If you are using Speech Dispatcher or OpenTTS for speech
>>>services, Then please checkout the patch here.
>>>https://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=162505
>>>A couple side effects seem to appear with this:
>>>1. All capital letters now speak with a raised pitch
instead of
>>>saying "Capital" every time; I actually like this.
>>>2. Unfortunately, if you set Punctuation to "All", you will
hear
>>>periods being spoken twice. I can't seem to figure this
>>>particular problem out. Anyone care to speculate a guess
why?
>>>
>>>Anyway, please check this out and tell me how things go and
if I
>>>can get that minor bug figured out, I can have this
committed to
>>>master.
>>>
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Orca.
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>>>http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
>>>The FAQ is at
http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
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Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
The manual is at
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The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
Netiquette Guidelines are at
http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions/NetiquetteGuidelines
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_______________________________________________
orca-list mailing list
orca-list gnome org
http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
The manual is at
http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
Netiquette Guidelines are at
http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions/NetiquetteGuidelines
Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
_______________________________________________
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orca-list gnome org
http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
The manual is at
http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
Netiquette Guidelines are at
http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions/NetiquetteGuidelines
Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
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