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Re: [orca-list] Bullets and Numbering in OOo Writer

I never heard "??" at any time before or after the change.  But to
answer Bill's part below, I didn't give key echo any thought because I
was mainly addressing text being spoken when you cursor over the
document.  I usually use echo by word when typing; I'll have to
checkout echoing of keystrokes by char the next time I'm in Orca.  I'm
doing this mail from the console right now so my results vary.

On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 10:18:52AM -0400, Chris Gilland wrote:

You know, I have a sort a strange issue as well with this.  Seems
when there is a bulleted list, Orca says question? Before everything
instead of announcing it's a bullet.

I thought that was kind a bizarre.

Chris.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Cox"
<waywardgeek gmail com>
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Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Bullets and Numbering in OOo Writer


I still get somewhat goofy behavior I can't explain after the patch.
With Key Echo enabled, now both espeak and voxin say "capital" as I
type.  It was pretty annoying, but when I turned off key echo, and
enabled "echo by character", it seems to work ok.

Bill

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 8:42 PM, Steve Holmes
<steve holmes88 gmail com> wrote:

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Yeah, there might be some other fall-out with character substitution.
I was trying to get the speech dispatcher modules to behave more like
gnome-speech since it seems that gnome-speech does a better job with
substitution of characters. See, formerly in the speech dispatcher
modules, character pronunciation is left up to the synthesizer. In
the case of the bullet styles used in Open Office, the synth did not
have descriptions available for at least one style I know of for
sure. So I examined the gnome-speech factory module and took out what
I needed. There was a lot of extra stuff, it seemed, in gnome-speech
which I do not comprehend fully. So I might have introduced some bugs
with this patch. I'll have to try out Thunderbird some and see how it
goes. I was in firefox long enough to update the bug report and
upload the patch and I didn't encounter any problems there so far.

On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 09:00:14PM -0300, jose vilmar estacio de
souza wrote:

Hi.
After apply the patch I began to hear "no break space" when reading
messages in thunderbird.

On 06/01/2010 07:34 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:

Hey, the recent changes were committed to master where bullets and
numbers were spoken in Writer but if one used Speech Dispatcher or
OpenTTS, he or she would not hear them unless punctuation was set
to "All". And even then, some bullet styles would still not
speak. I have sent up a patch to Bugzilla for you all to test.
If you are using Speech Dispatcher or OpenTTS for speech
services, Then please checkout the patch here.
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=162505
A couple side effects seem to appear with this:
1. All capital letters now speak with a raised pitch instead of
saying "Capital" every time; I actually like this.
2. Unfortunately, if you set Punctuation to "All", you will hear
periods being spoken twice. I can't seem to figure this
particular problem out. Anyone care to speculate a guess why?

Anyway, please check this out and tell me how things go and if I
can get that minor bug figured out, I can have this committed to
master.

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The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
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