Re: [orca-list] Using Linux for everyday computing tasks and employment

Hi Krishnakant

The following may be useful for getting around the delay problem with large
number of items in the inbox at least until this issue is fixed.  
I used to run very large number of items in my inbox but not anymore.
Thunderbird 3 has excellent facility which allows you to create filters
which will among other things move your items to folders of your choice
thereby reducing the items in each one.  You can even run your filter on
your existing folders including your inbox.
I now run basically an empty inbox and where items do not conform to any of
the filtering criteria I either delete or move it manually for long term


-----Original Message-----
From: orca-list-bounces gnome org [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On
Behalf Of Michael Whapples
Sent: 14 January 2010 22:41
To: Krishnakant
Cc: Orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Using Linux for everyday computing tasks and

Hello Krishnakant,
I have a few tips/comments on what you say.

You mention you use HTML for presentations, I would have thought this would
be limited and if you know LaTeX there might be a better option. 
Have you looked at the beamer package for LaTeX? Beamer is a package
specifically for writing presentations in LaTeX, and this would also solve
issues users have with openoffice impress.

As for thunderbird, I believe orca's responsiveness does go down in a
message list as the number of messages increase. I also think that the
responsiveness depends on where you are in the list, if you are near the top
of the list it will respond much faster than near the bottom, try this (you
probably will need to wait quite a long time for orca to respond at the
bottom of the message list having as many messages as you have).

Michael Whapples
On 01/-10/-28163 08:59 PM, Krishnakant wrote:
On Thu, 2010-01-14 at 11:22 -0500, Peter Torpey wrote:

Have you tried Thunderbird in Linux?  I played around with this about 
6 months ago and found Thunderbird to be much more accessible than

Hey, May be this will soon become another thread, but can you plese 
tell me the size of your inbox?
I have about 96000 mails in my inbox and the file is about 1 gb.
Now when I start thunderbird 3.0 on my laptop, I find that after I tab 
from inbox to the message list, orca just stops speaking.
I did not see this when my mail box was smaller with hardly 100 emails.

Is the the problem of mozila accessibility or with orca.  Who ever it 
is, I think this is buffering problem.

I used Unix for many years as my main development platform, before 
all the accessibility enhancements to Linux.  At that time, I used a 
Windows PC as a front end to the Unix box by running a terminal 
emulator from within Windows.  I'm amazed to see how far Linux has 
come since then in terms of accessibility.

If you are a typical office computer user using spreadsheets for daily 
work, surff regular sites like google, twitter or facebook, chat using 
google or yahoo, then orca is more than enough.
If you do coding, it is great.  Word processor gives you all the 
accessibility you need but for some 20% of features which you will 
never need for 80% of your work.

I make presentations in html with one good template which I downloaded 
from the net, so that solves my presentation problem.

Most often than not I use LaTeX which is very easy and can help blind 
person to generate richly formatted articles and reports by just 
remembering about 15 tags.

Of course there still needs to be a bunch of work done to make Linux 
accessibility more robust (such as being able to install and 
configure by a blind person out of the box, conflicts of audio and 
speech drivers and interfaces, etc.), but its incredible how accessible
Linux is these days.

I think once the audio conflict being talked about offlate is fixt, we 
have one of the best accessible OS till date.
And yes I hope in coming 4 or 5 months openoffice and firefox will 
have state-of-the-art accessibility with orca.

Happy hacking.


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