Re: [orca-list] Making Ubuntu Software Center accessible

[Ignasi Cambra <ignasicambra gmail com>]

I agree about package management, but what you can't do is to make the system talk from the very beginning, 
because not everyone needs the system to talk. In Mac OS X, one needs to know how to turn on the screen 
reader. And that's more or less what one needs to do to install Ubuntu. It is true that maybe finding a way 
of enabling accessibility without having to press enter, f5, 3, enter enter would be convenient (I.E. not so 
many keystrokes) but it's really not the end of the world. Windows users can't install windows at all, and 
they actually need to install their screen reader before doing anything productive with their computer.
On Feb 18, 2010, at 10:37 AM, Peter Torpey wrote:

> It seems to me one of the big frustrations with Ubuntu is that these
> important tasks are not easily accessible for the blind user.
>
> It should be an easy and straightforward task for a blind person to at least
> install the OS without having to search around for documentation and hints
> on what magic sequence of keys to hit before anything starts talking at all.
> After all, if one can't even install the OS, the rest of the questions are
> irrelevant!
>
> Also, installing/updating packages is a key task that one needs to keep on
> top of since fixes and upgrades are constantly coming down the pipe.  Again,
> if the blind user can't easily perform these common tasks, this is just one
> more hurdle that will prevent them from using the system and errors will
> occur if one has to make modifications by hand in order to perform these
> tasks.
>
> In summary, this system would be a lot more friendly to blind users if:
> 1.  The install CD came up talking immediately without the user having to
> guess at where they are or what key sequences need to be pressed to get
> things going, and, 2.  The updating of packages should be as straightforward
> for the blind user as it is for the sighted user.  One shouldn't need
> additional modifications to perform these key tasks that require Su
> permissions.
>
> --Pete
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf Of Bill Cox
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> Subject: [orca-list] Making Ubuntu Software Center accessible
>
> Since Karmic, Ubuntu has not had a decent accessible software installer.
> Since Ubuntu has gone with a new "Ubuntu Software Center", it may make sense
> to work on making that accessible.  Is this already in the works?  Is that
> the right place to put effort, or should we have blind users install the old
> gnome-app-installer?
>
> Bill
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> Since Karmic, Ubuntu has not had a decent accessible software
> installer.  Since Ubuntu has gone with a new "Ubuntu Software Center",
> it may make sense to work on making that accessible.  Is this already
> in the works?  Is that the right place to put effort, or should we
> have blind users install the old gnome-app-installer?
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> Bill
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