Re: [orca-list] possibly OT: Oracle takeover

[Steve Holmes <steve holmes88 gmail com>]

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Your direct involvement will be sorely missed for sure! Even if full
time funding isn't available, we collectively can begin working on on
Orca even if in limitted ways.  I think once we're past these big
herdles like DBUS, gnome 3.0, and whatever, maybe us with so little
knowledge can pick up the pase more and contribute more. to the
project.  

I wonder if a more fomal organization should be formed to at least
provide a "core" of developers or maintainers.  I'm think something
like Debian or Arch but maybe not quite so formal.  I just hate to see
something happen to a project where if you get pulled away completely
or something that there would be no gate keepers or whatever.
Obviously it can be forked away if got locked out or something but
that sonds pretty drastic to me just yet.

I know I'm one of the guilty parties who express an interst but
haven't really stepped up to the plate like I should have.  Well,
there's still time to turn that around, even if I just drop in some
wiki comments or whatever but I need to really get down and learn
python and get familiar with gnome and the GUI and stuff; lot to learn
there but as I've been seeing it lately, there's just you and
Joanmarie putting up actual code.  I think we need more if this
project is going to grow.  I guess I had better git out the python
books and get started.  I am a computer programmer analyst by
profession so there's no excuse for me not contributing more
agressively.

Thanks again for the warning and most importantly, good luck in
finding new work in this ultra sick economy of ours.

On Fri, Feb 05, 2010 at 09:42:23PM +0000, Michael Whapples wrote:
> Hello,
> I find this a great shame and sad news. Will: You have put so much
> work into orca and gnome accessibility, much more than I think Sun
> were employing you for. This certainly has made me reconsider my
> view of Oracle/Sun. I had been considering putting OpenSolaris to
> some serious use having seen how well accessibility was integrated,
> but how that will go now...
>
> Now pointed at others on the list:
> * Yes this is something which could affect us and we shouldn't just
> be silent if we have views. Also even if one of us says we will pass
> on our views, everyone with something to say should say it to show
> the scale of the concern.
> * Another thing we can do to ensure orca doesn't die is to put some
> work in where we can to help develop orca. This is even more the
> case now if we are loosing the support of a major company. Look
> where LSR is, we don't want orca to go that way as well.
>
> Michael Whapples
> On 01/-10/-28163 08:59 PM, Willie Walker wrote:
> > By the way, if anyone is concerned that I may no longer lead Orca or GNOME Accessibility - it is a valid 
> > concern.
> >
> > I will be casting a broad net looking for employment and it may lead me away from this space.  I regret 
> > that I would have to leave since I am so passionate about what we do with GNOME Accessibility.  We are a 
> > strong community and I'm happy to be part of it.  I am still planning on seeing GNOME 2.30 through, 
> > however, and will do my best to help with GNOME 3.0 as much as I can.
> >
> > If you are concerned, remember that you do have a voice.  You can write to organizations about how my 
> > absence in this space will have a direct impact on your access to the graphical desktop, the internet, 
> > employment, etc.  You can blog about it.  Tweet about it.  Write an open letter.  Have your friends do the 
> > same.  Let people know that it needs to be staffed/funded appropriately to succeed.
> >
> > If your voice is not heard, the assumption will be that you do not care.
> >
> > Will
> >
> > On Feb 4, 2010, at 5:47 PM, Willie Walker wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Igor:
> > >
> > > I'm now working on Orca and leading the GNOME Accessibility project in my spare time.
> > >
> > > Will
> > >
> > > On Feb 4, 2010, at 2:46 PM, Igor Gueths wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi all. Just out of curiosity, with Oracle having bought Sun, is anything going
> > > > to change with regards to Orca development? Based on my preliminary research, it
> > > > seems that the MySQL entity will be left relatively intact and independent. Does
> > > > the same hold true in this case? Thanks.
> > > > -- 
> > > > Igor
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