Re: [orca-list] More structural navigation thoughts

[Steve Holmes <steve holmes88 gmail com>]

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Not sure about the key bindings here but for the previous message from
Joanie, I think I rather like the keywords Current, Most Recent and
Least Recent.  Perhaps Current and Most Recent would be synonimous.

Just my quick thought.

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 03:26:16AM -0400, Jacob Schmude wrote:
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> Hi
> Ok, that makes sense. Calling it "move to last spoken live region" or
> something like that would clear it up I think.
> Should it really have a letter key of its own though, or should we bind
> it to whatever live region key we end up using with a modifier such as
> alt? If not, my other suggestion would be to move it to the ` (accent)
> key, to match some of the other screen readers in Windows, since making
> it simpler for the newcomer is the main goal. It would free up a letter
> key for another use that we'll no doubt need at some point.
> What do you think?
>
> On 04/28/2010 01:07 AM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> > Hi Jacob.
> >
> > > Given that we're binding the structural navigation shortcut keys, I have
> > > a question about one I've been curious over. What does the "go to last
> > > live region" key, y, do exactly?
> >
> > To be honest, I had to go back and check because I was not involved with
> > that implementation.
> >
> > According to the associated bug/rfe: [1]
> >
> > > My conversation with Mike yielded three good ideas that I will now try to
> > > implement.
> > >
> > > 1) A user command to hear one of up to 6 previous messages from a given live
> > > region.
> > >
> > > 2) Implement Will's idea of moving to the live region which was just announced.
> > >
> > > 3) Change output so that rude messages don't interrupt any other utterances.
> >
> > So y is intended to move to the last live region spoken. Which makes
> > sense to me as a feature. It also suggests that the keybinding
> > description is missing a word. Three comments later in the bug, Will
> > made a similar observation:
> >
> > > In the way they are used here, "previous" and "next" refer to
> > > navigational location on the page, which makes sense.  The word "last" threw
> > > me, however, and I went looking for "previous".  I then realized "last" was in
> > > the temporal sense of the word.  So, when I look at this help text for the
> > > user:
> > >
> > > +                _("Goes to previous live region."))
> > > +                _("Goes to next live region."))
> > > +                _("Goes to last live region."))
> > >
> > > I wonder if a different word choice can be made for "last" (e.g., "current")?
> > > Or, do we just need to live with the fact that we are dealing with words that
> > > can describe both relative aspects of time and location?
> >
> > But nothing seems to have taken place in response. <shrugs>
> >
> > If I tack on the word 'spoken' to the end of the description string, do
> > you think that would make things sufficiently clear? Would 'current' be
> > better?
> >
> > --joanie
> >
> > [1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=466251#c33
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