Re: [orca-list] Announcing Orca's support for Empathy (other clients to follow)

[Storm Dragon <stormdragon2976 gmail com>]

Hi,
Awesome! Thanks for this. If I can make a suggestion for another client, please try Instant Bird. It wasn't accessible the last time I tried the Linux version, but with the new script it may work.
Thanks
Storm

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On Sun, 2010-04-11 at 16:37 -0400, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
> Hey all.
>
> Today, I checked in a new generic chat module into Orca git master. Its
> primary purpose is twofold: make it really, really easy to implement
> chat functionality for new clients and have that functionality be
> consistent in terms of the user experience with Orca. There are no doubt
> bugs which will be found and improvements to be made, but I don't think
> this support sucks too badly in its current form. <smile>
>
> An additional goal is to migrate the Pidgin script over to this new
> support. That will be a big change with the threat of breakage.
> Therefore, instead I figured I'd implement support for the official chat
> client in GNOME, Empathy. There is now an Empathy script in place and,
> at least from my testing with Lucid, it largely seems to work as
> expected.
>
> Known issues with Orca + Empathy:
>
> * Certain "themes" don't seem especially accessible. I need to
> investigate further. In the meantime, please choose the "Classic" theme
> in the Empathy preferences.
>
> * In the buddy list, Orca is reporting that the number of items in an
> expandable node is one more than it should be. From my initial
> debugging, it appears that we're getting the wrong count. I need to keep
> digging and then decide how best to proceed.
>
> * Identifying when your buddy is typing looks like it is going to be
> tricky and will likely require a change to Empathy. (We get events; just
> no details to distinguish what the new status is. Might be typing, away,
> offline, busy, or something else.)
>
> * Various and sundry potential usability problems in Empathy. I say
> "potential" because I'm not an Empathy user (or at least I wasn't), and
> therefore I'm not familiar with every last setting which might make life
> better for users who are blind. We'll have to help each other with this
> and figure out what we can do in Orca versus what we need the Empathy
> guys to implement. Which brings me to:
>
> Please, please, please pull git master if you're comfortable doing so
> and test this new support. Remember the goal of ultimately migrating the
> Pidgin script to this new code. We need to beat on the new stuff to be
> sure there are no major goofs.... It would also be nice to give the
> Empathy guys feedback and have a really, really accessible official chat
> client for GNOME 3.0.
>
> While you're doing that, I plan to look for other chat clients which are
> pretty accessible and which there is little-to-no support in Orca and
> crank out scripts for them. As I do this, I'll make announcements here.
>
> Thanks y'all!
> --joanie
>
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