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Re: [orca-list] on coping from documentation

Hi, Will!  This is just a question of clarification.

Your message to Josh about skim reading included this:

where did you get the text below?  If you copied it from the JAWS
documentation, I request that you not do so in the future.  

Why do you request this?  If the concern is copyright infringement, wouldn't
fair use cover this, or does it look like Josh copied too much of the
document for that?  Or, is the concern something else?

I ask because sometimes the best description of a feature somebody wants for
Orca will be in the product that already has that feature.  (Only
*sometimes*, I know.)  I've never been inclined to copy any part of a
document about another screen reader in a message here.  If I thought doing
so was the best way I had to help make a point relevant to Orca, though, I'd
like to know what you think the parameters should be.

Thanks!

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: orca-list-bounces gnome org [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On
Behalf Of Willie Walker
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 4:39 AM
To: Josh
Cc: orca list
Subject: Re: [orca-list] skim reading in orca

Thanks Josh - I added a pointer to your e-mail from
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=577481.

Another thing to explore might be how this kind of thing might be supported
inside the application (e.g., the browser) since this kind of skimming can
be of use to more people than screen reader users.

BTW - where did you get the text below?  If you copied it from the JAWS
documentation, I request that you not do so in the future.  Note also that
our goal for Orca is not to be a JAWS clone, but to instead work to provide
compelling access.  So, we may end up exploring features in some detail
before implementing them.

In any case, thanks for sparking a discussion!  :-)

Will

Josh wrote:

Hi,
 
If this would be implemented in Orca it would be nice and give it a 
step up closer to competing with jaws. and maybe with this feature 
more students would be encouraged to use Gnome with Orca.
 
Skim Reading
The Skim Reading feature lets you quickly browse through long 
documents by reading the first part of each paragraph. To begin skim 
reading in a document, press CTRL+INSERT+DOWN ARROW. By default, JAWS 
reads the first line of each paragraph, but you can choose to read the 
first sentence of each paragraph instead or set up your own skim 
reading rules. To change your skim reading preferences, press 
CTRL+SHIFT+INSERT+DOWN ARROW. For more information on these options, see

Skim Reading Dialog.

 

Skim Reading Dialog
Press SHIFT+CTRL+INSERT+DOWN ARROW or choose "Skim Reading Tool" in 
the List of JAWS Managers (INSERT+F2) to display the Skim Reading 
dialog box. Use this dialog box to define how you want JAWS to skim 
through the current document. You can choose to read either the first 
sentence or line of each paragraph. Alternatively, you can create text 
rules to search for lines, sentences, or paragraphs that contain 
specific words or phrases. The options available in the Skim Reading 
dialog box are described below.
 
When you press CTRL+INSERT+DOWN ARROW, JAWS begins skim reading from 
the current location of the cursor to the end of the document. 
However, one of the most useful aspects of the skim reading feature is 
the ability to create a summary of the current document. To generate a 
summary using your current skim reading settings, choose the Create

Summary button.

 
The summary displays in the Virtual Viewer and contains all the text 
that matches the criteria you defined. Each segment of text is a link, 
and each is individually numbered. You can move to a segment and press 
ENTER to jump to its location within the document. Once you create a 
summary, it remains available until you generate another, even if you 
switch to a different document or program. You can press WINDOWS
Key+INSERT+DOWN ARROW to review the last summary that you created in 
Key+INSERT+the
Virtual Viewer. However, you can only use the links if the summary was 
created from the active document.
 
Use Rule Type
Select one of the following radio buttons to choose the skim reading 
mode you want to use:
 
Read First Line of Paragraph - When you press CTRL+INSERT+DOWN ARROW, 
JAWS reads the first line of each paragraph.
Note: The other options in this dialog box are not available if you 
select this radio button.
 
Read First Sentence of Paragraph - When you press CTRL+INSERT+DOWN 
ARROW, JAWS reads the first sentence of each paragraph.
Note: The other options in this dialog box are not available if you 
select this radio button.
 
Text Rules Apply for Reading - When you press CTRL+INSERT+DOWN ARROW, 
JAWS searches for text according to a text rule that you define. JAWS 
then reads the line, sentence, or paragraph that contains the matching 
text, depending on the option you have selected in the Speak Unit list.
Attributes and Color Rules Apply for Reading - When you press
CTRL+INSERT+DOWN ARROW, JAWS searches for text according to the 
CTRL+INSERT+selected
text color and attributes. The selections made are cumulative, meaning 
that if you select bold and red text, JAWS will only search for text 
that is red and bold. If you add the italic attribute, then JAWS will 
only search for text that is red, bold, and italic. Any text that 
lacks any of these attributes or color is ignored by JAWS.
Rules History
This combo box allows you to create a new text reading rule or select 
an existing text reading rule. Text rules are logical expressions that 
tell JAWS to search for specific text when skim reading. JAWS then 
reads the line, sentence, or paragraph that contains the matching 
text, depending on the option you have selected in the Speak Unit 
list. You must select either the Text Rules Apply for Reading radio 
button or the Attributes and Color Rules Apply for Reading radio 
button if you want to use text rules while skim reading.
 
If you are creating a new text rule, select <New> from the combo box 
and then enter the appropriate search pattern, color or attribute 
rules, or speak unit rules. Once the rule is configured, press the 
Start Skim Reading button to save and start the new skim reading rule.
 
<New> is the default setting for this combo box.
 
Text Search Pattern
In the Text Rule edit box, enter a word or phrase that you want JAWS 
to search for while skim reading. Optionally, you can use a regular 
expression to further refine your search. There are many different 
ways to create these expressions. If you only want to search for text 
units that contain two or more words, separate each word with ".*" 
(that is, a period followed by an asterisk with no spaces between the 
words or symbols). For example, you can use the following expression 
to search for text units containing both the words "JAWS" and "MAGic":
 
JAWS.*MAGic
 
If you want to search for text units that contain any of several 
different words, separate each word with "|" (that is, a vertical bar 
with no spaces between the words or symbols). For example, you can use 
the following expression to search for text units containing either 
the words "JAWS" or "MAGic":
 
JAWS|MAGic
 
You can create more advanced expressions as well. For example, you can 
use the following expression to search for text units containing any 
year starting with "19":
 
19\d{2}\s
 
Tip: For more information on creating complex expressions, refer to 
the section Regular Expression Language Elements in the MSDN Library.
 
After you enter some text or a regular expression, type a name for the 
text rule in the Rule Name edit box. Choose OK to save the text rule.
You can select which text rule you want to use in the Text Rules list.
 
Color or Attribute Rules
Text Color edit box - Use this combo box to select or enter a specific 
color that a passage of text uses. You can use the UP and DOWN ARROWS 
to cycle through a list of text colors, or you can type a color into 
the combo box. JAWS uses word prediction to predict the color that you 
want. An asterisk appears as the default setting.
Background Color edit box - Use this combo box to select a background 
color to be used for the skim reading rule. You can use the UP and 
DOWN ARROWS to cycle through a list of text colors, or you can type a 
color into the combo box. JAWS uses word prediction to predict the 
color that you want. An asterisk appears as the default setting.
Attribute Check Boxes - Select an attribute check box to search for 
the type of selected text in a document or Web page. Each attribute 
can be used inconjunction with any other text attribute. The following 
attributes are available: Bold, Italic, Underline, Strikeout, Double 
Strikeout, Superscript, Subscript, Shadow, and Outline. These check 
boxes are only available when the Attributes and Color Rules Apply for 
Reading radio button is selected.
Delete Rule
To delete a text rule, select it in the Rules History list and then 
choose the Delete Rule button.
 
Delete All Rules
To delete all your saved text rules, choose the Delete All Rules button.
 
Speak Unit
Select whether JAWS should read the paragraph, sentence, or line 
containing any text that matches the currently selected text rule.
 
Use Regular Expression
A regular expression is a search string that uses special characters 
to help you define the search and match text patterns. This feature is 
used primarily by advanced users. Do not select this check box if you 
are simply performing a plain text search. This check box is unchecked 
by default and is only available if the Text Rules Apply for Reading 
radio button is selected.
 
Skim Reading Indication
If you select this check box, JAWS notifies you when skimming past 
units of text that do not match the currently selected text rule. JAWS 
beeps once for every 20 units that it skips.
 
Start Skim Reading
Choose this button to save your changes and begin skim reading from 
your current location.
 
Create Summary
Choose this button to create a summary of the current page in the 
Virtual Viewer. This summary contains all the text you would hear if 
you began skim reading from your present location using your currently 
selected options. The summary remains available until you create 
another, even if you switch to another document or program. You can 
review the summary in the Virtual Buffer at any time by pressing 
WINDOWS
Key+INSERT+DOWN ARROW.
 
Close
Choose this button to close this dialog box and save your changes.
 
 
 
Back
 
   
 
Josh
 
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