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Re: [orca-list] Different Voices

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Well in the meantime, I managed to clear  up the  voice differences
while running Firefox.  When I went into the control panel with
Orca+Ctrl-space, I notice now that there are no choices for different
voices or speech systems.  I wonder if this cleared up with recent
changes to Orca or something.  But I could still change rate/pitch for
the usual three options (default, capitalization, and URL).  After
going through and re-confirming the desired speech rates, I saved the
config and seemingly now, I don't get the wierd voice difference
anymore.  Alt tabbing around and reading tables works with the proper
default voice now.

So I don't know what exactly changed here but I will be on the lookout
if it happens again.  I think my original troubles began when I
switched from espeak to Swift and came back again.  There were some
strange things going on while using Swift where I think I heard a
different speech synth at one point when switching apps.  Sorry it
sounds so scattered but hard to pin down exact details.

On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:39:31PM -0300, jose vilmar estacio de souza wrote:

Hi Will and all,

I believe to be found a case where I can reproduce this situation.
Try the following steps:
1. Make sure that the uppercase voice is configured to be a different pitch.

2. Using firefox go to 
http://oglobo.globo.com/pais/noblat/posts/2009/10/15/da-serie-lula-mata-vai-ao-enterro-2-232429.asp.
This is a Brazilian journal.

3. After the page is loaded press ctrl+home.

4. Press the 5 key three times.
Orca must read DESABAFE, a portuguese word using the uppercase voice.

6. Press the down key. Orca reads the next line using the uppercase
voice although the text is write in lowercase letters.

This happens to me all the time.
Thanks.

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On 10/15/2009 11:24 AM, Willie Walker wrote:

Odd.  Try keeping track of what you are doing and see if you can
create a reliable test case that reproduces the problem.

Will

Steve Holmes wrote:

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My situation exactly.  I noticed this situation when I would navigate
around inside a table which involves using the shift-alt arrow key
combinations; In those particular cases, it seemed that espeak would
speak with a slightly different accent.  I can't recall any place
where I have gnome-speech configured to use a different voice.  I do
ask capital letters to be spoken at a slightly higher pitch.  When I
hear the "different "voice" while switching tasks, I think holding the
alt key to do the alt-tab thing might be a contributer and again, I
only notice this when Firefox is in the loop.  Also, I think this only
happens when I switch tasks *FROM* firefox to something else.
Everywhere else, the voice is consistent and stable.

On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 05:17:47PM -0300, jose vilmar estacio de
souza wrote:

Hi Will,
I am not sure if my problem is exactly the same reported by Steve,
but I've observed that some times orca starts to read using another
pitch. It happens when I am navigating with firefox or when I press
some combination keys like ctrl+shift+s or ctrl+w. I've orca
configured to announce capital text in a different pitch
As I said I am not sure if is the same problem. Perhaps I may report
in another thread.
Thanks.

Steve:

On 10/05/2009 05:03 PM, Willie Walker wrote:

Hi Steve:

Something sounds very strange here.  If you opened the preferences
dialog the normal way (i.e., pressing the "Preferences Button" or
pressing Orca+Space), you should be making global changes for speech
selection.


From what it sounds like, Orca (or speech dispatcher)
might be hanging

on to an old voice selection somehow.  If you restart Orca or
SpeechDispatcher, do you end up getting the voices you selected?

Will

On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 10:46 -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:

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I have a question about voice parameters.  I've been noticing lately
that Orca can some times use different voice settings depending on
what application is running.  In my case, I changed from Cepstral
Callie back to espeak and then needed to speed up the speech rate for
example.  I did that fine through the main Orca
preferences.  But then
when I changed over to Firefox for example, I noticed that I had the
slow rates I formerly used with Callie.  I then had to set those
backup and I did so with the Firefox specific preferences.  Are voice
parameters stored with each application separately?  I thought that
was standard across the board and should only be done at the global
level.

With all this in background, I'm now noticing a funny espeak voice
being used when I either navigate tables in firefox and
when I alt-tab
from Firefox to any other application that is currently running.
Anyone know what might be causing this? I would just soon get it all
to using the same speech parameters everywhere if possible.

Thanks for any help.
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The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
Netiquette Guidelines are at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions/NetiquetteGuidelines


_______________________________________________
Orca-list mailing list
Orca-list gnome org
http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
The manual is at
http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
Netiquette Guidelines are at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions/NetiquetteGuidelines

_______________________________________________
Orca-list mailing list
Orca-list gnome org
http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
Netiquette Guidelines are at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions/NetiquetteGuidelines

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