Re: [orca-list] Accessible VOIP systems

[Michael Whapples <mwhapples aim com>]

Regarding empathy, yes this seems to be a big accessibility bug. I'm not 
always getting just one contact's name in the treeview, sometimes its 
just the one, sometimes I have more than one (it can be anything between 
two and may be all, although the latter is very rare and I am unsure its 
really shown itself in the small amount of testing I have done with it) 
and sometimes one or so may have a name present (possibly the correct 
one or may be the wrong one) and the rest have no label. It appears what 
ever is going on differs from time to time (I've not notice any pattern 
to what outcome happens when), so it may be very hard to find what 
causes this and how it might be fixed. I will add this to the bug report.

Michael Whapples
On 23/12/42 19:59, Michael Whapples wrote:
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> back sometime as google was going into gtalk I remember seeing stuff 
> about jingle but I forgot about it recently. Good constructive 
> information about empathy, I will have a look at it and see what I can 
> make of it. I am not sure I will be able to solve the contact list 
> issue though. It is a bit worrying that the developers don't 
> understand the accessibility API of GTK. May be someone from here 
> could help explain what is wrong.
>
> Anyway better be going.
>
> Michael Whapples
> On 12/03/09 18:49, Nolan Darilek wrote:
> > On 03/12/2009 08:05 AM, Michael Whapples wrote:
> > > So is there any system I have missed which is worth mentioning? Is 
> > > there any other accessible clients other than those mentioned? As 
> > > SIP seems to be the only natively accessible system on Linux may be 
> > > the orca wiki needs details of using ekiga or linphone.
> > Don't forget Jingle, the XMPP voice/video extensions. These allow 
> > communication between any clients supporting the feature, and they're 
> > what powers gtalk.
> >
> > Empathy supports this, and is mostly accessible except for one 
> > (seemingly minor) issue that makes it practically unusable. Items in 
> > the contact list aren't accessible, though just about everything else 
> > I tested is. You can arrow through each contact and request info via 
> > the context menu, thus figuring out which you're on that way, but 
> > this is painful. There is a bug filed here. I nag on it from time to 
> > time, but since this would actually be a compelling and accessible 
> > VOIP solution were this bug fixed, feel free to nag as well. Maybe 
> > more naggers will get this taken more seriously:
> >
> > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=545282
> >
> > I really hope this gets fixed soon. I've tried fixing it myself, but 
> > all I've been able to do is change the accessible name of the table 
> > as a whole, and I fear I'd have to learn a whole bunch more than I 
> > have time to learn about GTK/glib to make any progress. Chats with 
> > the developers indicate that they don't understand the accessibility 
> > APIs, or that this is some unstated bug in GTK. Either way, it's 
> > worrying, especially as empathy is now an official GNOME module, and 
> > this one fix should put it squarely in the realm of apps whose 
> > accessibility can be improved via Orca scripting.
> >
> > Anyhow </rant>. Empathy is one of those apps I've wanted to use for 
> > quite some time but can't, next to Banshee.
>
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