I am not sure whether that bug is or isn't what I mean.
The bug you quoted does the right thing in setting the automatic start
up, but I am still a little unclear whether it asks the question where
I mean and whether it solves the problem. Does that bug refer to when
running "orca -t" or "orca -s"? If it is when using "orca -t" then its
what I meant.
Also the bug refers to orca needing gconf running to do this, so does
this mean users would need to actually do this inside gnome or could
they run "orca -t" from a text console (eg. ctrl+alt+f1)? My thought is
this could be done before the first launch of gnome on GRML and then
the user doesn't need to do anything without speech feedback, even if
all that needs to be done without feedback is press alt+f2 and type
orca -s.
Also as a side note, I tried using "orca -t" from a text console but
all I got was "Welcome to orca setup" and no further output (I tried
setting the DISPLAY environment variable but I didn't get further).
Therefore I have been unable to confirm for myself whether what I am
asking for is solved or not.
Michael Whapples
On 21/07/09 13:22, Willie Walker wrote:
Hi Michael:
First -- many thanks for providing Orca support to people. This is
what helps the community work well.
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=563128 might be the bug you
are looking for. It adds an "Automatically start orca when you log
in?" question to the text-based setup and was released with Orca
v2.26.0.
Hope this helps,
Will
On Jul 21, 2009, at 4:41 AM, Michael Whapples wrote:
Hello,
I recieved the below question (I modified the details in the
forwarded headers to try and protect the person against spammers
trawling the net for email addresses) and it made me think of a
possible feature orca could add (if not already added as its been some
time since I set up orca using orca -t).
Basically what the situation is, on systems such as GRML where users
install gnome after installing the system to their hard disk, they
probably have to go through a procedure of starting gnome and then
starting orca manually at least once before they can set orca to start
up automatically. This procedure has no audable feed back for the
user, so may be difficult or at least feel uncertain to do.
My solution would be that as orca is able to set itself to start up
automatically after login (IE. there is a check box in the orca
preferences for this), would it be possible to add to the orca text
setup a question saying, "Do you want orca to start automatically on
login?". I feel this solution would remove any part of the set up
procedure where a user may need to do anything without speech/Braille
output (IE. bin text consoles speakup and brltty and then everytime,
including first time starting gnome the user will have orca in gnome).
If the feature has already been added, in what version was it added
and then I can modify my docs for GRML accordingly.
Michael Whapples
-------- Original Message --------
Subject:
sorry to bother you with another GRML/gnome question
Date:
Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:25:33 -0400
From:
al Sten-Clanton <xxx>
To:
'Michael Whapples' <xxx>
Hi, Michael!
After lots of trial and
error, I have much if not all of gnome installed and do indeed have
Orca installed. (I didn't even have to change the repositories in
sources.list.) I had to install gdm separately, but it seems in
order. Thanks to you, I even seem to have the runlevel setup I want.
And, I apparently was able to use "orca -t" from the text console to
do some Orca setup. That's the good news--or, at least, it looks to
be.
The bad news is that I can't
get Orca talking when I go through the steps of logging into gnome. I
had earlier installed the sound-related items your document suggests,
but I hear no gnome-related sounds to indicate whether I've logged in
correctly or not. (I suspect that I have.) I maybe should add that,
when I did the Orca setup from the text console, I did hear the
default gnome-speech voice I hear on Ubuntu, along with Speakup on my
hardware synth.
From what I've said, can you
tell what I might do to complete the job of getting a talking GUI? If
not, what other information should I provide?
Thanks for any help you can
give me. I add that I'm writing to you individually for two reasons,
that you're the closest person I know of with some expertise, and
because I don't know what list would not consider the question
off-topic. Again, thanks!
Al
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