Re: [orca-list] Ubuntu 9.04 installation instructions via Orca

Hi Will,

Thanks for testing ubuntu and doing a great job with orca development.

any way ubuntu's pulseaudio integration is a big desaster.
If you install ubuntu with screenreader, pulse is disabled and
you can't play other system sounds.
this can't be fixed easily. 
the problem exists in ubuntu since ??3 versions??.
Sorry for writing this but I am really annoyed by reading ubuntu related sound
Using esound/alsa and integrating speech-dispatcher would give a perfect 
tested here on two laptops and my other pc.

Now all distros are trying to integrate pulse and this makes things more complex
and unfortunately it doesn't work stable.
The latency issues should be mentioned as well.

Sorry Maybe my mail is OT.

On Mi, Jul 01, 2009 at 02:04:51 -0400, Willie Walker wrote:
Hi All:

I grown exhausted from the beating up Ubuntu has taken over the past  
several weeks.  Admittedly, Ubuntu has had unfortunate events happen  
with audio integration that cause speech to become corrupted.  I think a  
lot of this has to do more with Pulse Audio integration issues than  
anything else.

Much of my frustration is that I have not had the luxury of time to  
spend looking at Ubuntu-specific problems.  I work primarily on  
OpenSolaris because that's where my funding comes from -- many thanks to  
Sun Microsystems for its courage and commitment to fund and pioneer open  
source accessibility.

I hold a place in my heart for Ubuntu, however, because their early work  
with integrating accessibility into their live CD helped bring GNOME  
accessibility to more and more people.  I believe part of Orca's success  
is due to Ubuntu's work in this space.

So, while watching some Orca regression tests run on my OpenSolaris  
machine today, I spent the time to download Ubuntu 9.04 and install it  
on a decrepit laptop.  I installed it twice - once with the screen  
reader option and once without the screen reader option.

When I installed with the screen reader option, things went fairly  
smoothly and I ended up with an installation that spoke as expected.  
When I installed without the screen reader option, speech exhibited the  
problem everyone has been complaining about.  I was able to remedy the  
situation easily by doing a "sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio" and then  

I've written some brief instructions for Ubuntu Jaunty up on the Orca  
WIKI.  All said and done, Ubuntu 9.04 is not the accessibility disaster  
that people are making it out to be:

Please note that the above is a WIKI.  The heart of a WIKI is the  
community, which includes all of you.  If you have constructive and  
helpful things to add, please add them to the WIKI so other people can  
benefit.  In addition, if you have feedback for Ubuntu, please let the  
Ubuntu folks know.


PS - Reminder - I work for Sun Microsystems on OpenSolaris.  Just  
because I wrote up these brief Ubuntu Jaunty notes today does not  
automatically make me your for-free-at-your-beck-and-call Ubuntu support  
whipping boy. ;-)

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