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Re: [orca-list] Confirmation: Orca on Gnome 2.24 crashes when sounds are enabled.

I'm using Espeak 1.40.02.

-----Original Message-----
From: jose vilmar estacio de souza [mailto:vilmar informal com br] 
Sent: August 26, 2009 3:08 PM
To: James Homuth
Cc: orca-list gnome org; gentoo-accessibility lists gentoo org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Confirmation: Orca on Gnome 2.24 crashes when
sounds are enabled.

Hi,
Are you using Ibm via voice as the primary synthesizer?
In case of you're using ibm via voice, which package and version?
Thanks.

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On 08/26/2009 03:46 PM, James Homuth wrote:

I've tried the workaround suggested on that page already, and Orca 
still crashes when sound is enabled. If it helps, I'm running Alsa-Lib 
1.0.20-r1 with alsa-oss 1.0.17 (latest of both available in Gentoo's

repos).


-----Original Message-----
From: William Walker Sun COM [mailto:William Walker Sun COM]
Sent: August 25, 2009 5:17 PM
To: Homuth, James (Gentoo)
Cc: orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Confirmation: Orca on Gnome 2.24 crashes when 
sounds are enabled.

I'm not sure Orca could be considered the root cause of the problem here.
Orca 2.24 itself does nothing with audio.  Instead, there may be some 
bad interaction between the speech synthesis engine and other audio 
applications.

Unfortunately, Linux audio is a mixed bag of tricks and different 
distributions appear to develop their own audio recipes.  For many of 
these recipes, mixing audio and speech synthesis is kind of like oil 
and water -- you can shake really hard, but they will never really mix.

So, while I would whole heartedly recommend upgrading to 2.26 or 
better (Orca has had a lot of work done on it since 2.24), I doubt it 
will solve any of the audio integration woes.  Instead, you will 
probably need to dig deeper into what Gentoo is doing with audio.

You might also see if the guidance under the "How do I get Orca to 
speak alongside other ALSA applications" question on the following page

helps:


http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions/UsingOrca

Will

Homuth, James (Gentoo) wrote:
   

Oh, I understood what you were saying. I was simply pointing out that 
pulseaudio was never installed on the system--I made sure of that, so 
I know that's not the problem.

On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 19:58 -0300, jose vilmar estacio de souza wrote:
     

Hi,
I was not clear in my previous message. I had to remove pulse audio 
from my machine. My problems were solved after I remove pulse audio.


[]S José Vilmar Estácio de Souza
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On 08/25/2009 07:29 PM, Homuth, James (Gentoo) wrote:
       

I'm running Alsa over here, as well--Gentoo actually doesn't give 
preference to one over the other. It all depends on what you put in 
the package manager's config file as to what it pulls in.

On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 18:02 -0300, jose vilmar estacio de souza wrote:

         

Hi,

Gentoo uses pulse audio?


I had problems in my jaunty box but they were solved changing 
pulse audio to alsa.

[]S José Vilmar Estácio de Souza
http://www.informal.com.br
Msn:vilmar informal com br Skype:jvilmar
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jvesouza
Phone: +55 21-2555-2650 Cel: +55 21-8868-0859


On 08/25/2009 06:23 PM, Homuth, James (Gentoo) wrote:

           

I've had confirmation now that, upon the enabing of certain sound 
notifications in Gnome 2.24 on Gentoo, Orca will crash. Noteably 
if you enable the option to play a sound when a button is clicked.
The only way around it that I've been able to find, which 
unfortunately means I have to set up Orca again, is to blow away 
the /home/james/.gconf directory and start it over. Fortunately 
that's not what I'd call a huge problem for me at this stage, and 
I
             

know what not to enable in future.
   

I'm curious, though, to know if this is addressed in a later 
version of Gnome and/or Orca. If yes, it might be worth the 
trouble of upgrading, in spite of the fact Gentoo doesn't list
2.26 as stable yet. As said earlier, any feedback or additional 
information on this would be appreciated. I'm CCing the Gentoo 
accessibility list as well, in the event it turns out to be an OS
             

specific problem.
   

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