Re: [orca-list] Confirmation: Orca on Gnome 2.24 crashes when sounds are enabled.

["James Homuth" <james the-jdh com>]

I've tried the workaround suggested on that page already, and Orca still
crashes when sound is enabled. If it helps, I'm running Alsa-Lib 1.0.20-r1
with alsa-oss 1.0.17 (latest of both available in Gentoo's repos).

-----Original Message-----
From: William Walker Sun COM [mailto:William Walker Sun COM] 
Sent: August 25, 2009 5:17 PM
To: Homuth, James (Gentoo)
Cc: orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Confirmation: Orca on Gnome 2.24 crashes when
sounds are enabled.

I'm not sure Orca could be considered the root cause of the problem here.
Orca 2.24 itself does nothing with audio.  Instead, there may be some bad
interaction between the speech synthesis engine and other audio
applications.

Unfortunately, Linux audio is a mixed bag of tricks and different
distributions appear to develop their own audio recipes.  For many of these
recipes, mixing audio and speech synthesis is kind of like oil and water --
you can shake really hard, but they will never really mix.

So, while I would whole heartedly recommend upgrading to 2.26 or better
(Orca has had a lot of work done on it since 2.24), I doubt it will solve
any of the audio integration woes.  Instead, you will probably need to dig
deeper into what Gentoo is doing with audio.

You might also see if the guidance under the "How do I get Orca to speak
alongside other ALSA applications" question on the following page helps:

http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions/UsingOrca

Will

Homuth, James (Gentoo) wrote:
> Oh, I understood what you were saying. I was simply pointing out that 
> pulseaudio was never installed on the system--I made sure of that, so 
> I know that's not the problem.
>
> On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 19:58 -0300, jose vilmar estacio de souza wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I was not clear in my previous message. I had to remove pulse audio 
> > from my machine. My problems were solved after I remove pulse audio.
> >
> >
> > []S José Vilmar Estácio de Souza
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> > Msn:vilmar informal com br Skype:jvilmar
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> >
> >
> > On 08/25/2009 07:29 PM, Homuth, James (Gentoo) wrote:
> > > I'm running Alsa over here, as well--Gentoo actually doesn't give 
> > > preference to one over the other. It all depends on what you put in 
> > > the package manager's config file as to what it pulls in.
> > >
> > > On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 18:02 -0300, jose vilmar estacio de souza wrote:
> > >    
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Gentoo uses pulse audio?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I had problems in my jaunty box but they were solved changing pulse 
> > > > audio to alsa.
> > > >
> > > > []S José Vilmar Estácio de Souza
> > > > http://www.informal.com.br
> > > > Msn:vilmar informal com br Skype:jvilmar
> > > > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jvesouza
> > > > Phone: +55 21-2555-2650 Cel: +55 21-8868-0859
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 08/25/2009 06:23 PM, Homuth, James (Gentoo) wrote:
> > > >      
> > > > > I've had confirmation now that, upon the enabing of certain sound 
> > > > > notifications in Gnome 2.24 on Gentoo, Orca will crash. Noteably 
> > > > > if you enable the option to play a sound when a button is clicked. 
> > > > > The only way around it that I've been able to find, which 
> > > > > unfortunately means I have to set up Orca again, is to blow away 
> > > > > the /home/james/.gconf directory and start it over. Fortunately 
> > > > > that's not what I'd call a huge problem for me at this stage, and I
know what not to enable in future.
> > > > > I'm curious, though, to know if this is addressed in a later 
> > > > > version of Gnome and/or Orca. If yes, it might be worth the 
> > > > > trouble of upgrading, in spite of the fact Gentoo doesn't list 
> > > > > 2.26 as stable yet. As said earlier, any feedback or additional 
> > > > > information on this would be appreciated. I'm CCing the Gentoo 
> > > > > accessibility list as well, in the event it turns out to be an OS
specific problem.
> > > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> > > > > Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
> > > > > The manual is at 
> > > > > http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.ht
> > > > > ml The FAQ is at 
> > > > > http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
> > > > > Netiquette Guidelines are at 
> > > > > http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions/NetiquetteGuid
> > > > > elines
> > > > >
> > > > >        
> > >    
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