Re: [orca-list] Copy, Cut and Paste feedback Orca feature request

["Peter Torpey" <ptorpey rochester rr com>]

I agree.  It is a little disconcerting in Linux when you perform these
functions and don't hear any feedback.  Since a blind person can't
automatically "see" information that is pasted, for example, they don't know
whether the pasting action has been performed or not.  To verify, they would
have to take the extra action of reviewing the data on the screen.  Thus,
providing feedback through Orca would make this more efficient.

As an add to this idea, note that Windows screen readers have a "verbosity"
option.  Thus, some users prefer not to have all this additional feedback
while others do.  Thus they are given the opportunity to select the amount
of additional feedback through a verbosity setting within the screen reader.

--Pete


-----Original Message-----
From: orca-list-bounces gnome org [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On
Behalf Of Isaac Porat
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 2:53 PM
To: Orca-list gnome org
Subject: [orca-list] Copy, Cut and Paste feedback Orca feature request

Hello All

The Cut, Paste and Copy feedback is a feature which I appriciate with my
screen reader in the other OS and wonder if other people share the same
view, I would like to suggest a similar feature in Orca.
Please find below my communication with Will which will clarify the issue.

I am looking forward to your feedback.
Regards
Isaac

And the communication with Will...
Hi Isaac:

> I send this to the list but received no feedback; perhaps lost among 
> the discussion on text processing...
> So I send this to you privately.

Using the list would be preferred.  I get lots of e-mail and rely upon
others on the orca-list to help me out with answers.  I also prefer to have
public discussions around these kinds of things.  :-)

> A feature that I find very useful with my screen reader on that other 
> operating system is feedback on Copy, Cut and Paste.
> So If I try to copy something that was highlighted I press Ctrl + c 
> and it will say 'copied'
> If nothing is highlighted it will say 'nothing to copy' it works in a 
> similar way with Cut.
> With paste it will say 'pasted' and if there is nothing to paste from 
> the clipboard it tells you 'nothing to paste'.
> I find the above very useful indeed but as far as I can tell Orca does 
> not do this.
> Can I request this as a feature?

Right now, I'm not sure there's anything in the AT-SPI that allows us to
know for sure that something was added to the system clipboard or pulled
from the clipboard.  There might be some other API's that can help us, but
I'm not sure.  I see something here, but I don't see a way to be notified
when something is posted to or copied from the clipboard:

http://www.pygtk.org/docs/pygtk/class-gtkclipboard.html

There might be some sort of D-Bus protocol for working with the clipboard,
but I'm not aware of it.  In addition, there seems to be a GUI applet
(http://sourceforge.net/projects/glipper/) for monitoring the clipboard.
This might be something that could be scripted.

In any case, if you open an enhancement request at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
against the Orca project, we can track it.

Will

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