Re: [orca-list] Copy, Cut and Paste feedback Orca feature request

["Mike Reiser" <blindguy21 gmail com>]

Hello Isaac,

In the case of the other reader saying that, that was scripted in with the 
consiquence that if the cut or copy command does something else it will just 
say "cut or copy" when that isn't what happened.  If we can have it announce 
those when they associated shortcut for the menu command is pressed that 
would be good.

Mike
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Isaac Porat" <isaac porat me uk>
To: <Orca-list gnome org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:52 PM
Subject: [orca-list] Copy, Cut and Paste feedback Orca feature request


> Hello All
>
> The Cut, Paste and Copy feedback is a feature which I appriciate with my
> screen reader in the other OS and wonder if other people share the same
> view, I would like to suggest a similar feature in Orca.
> Please find below my communication with Will which will clarify the issue.
>
> I am looking forward to your feedback.
> Regards
> Isaac
>
> And the communication with Will...
> Hi Isaac:
>
> > I send this to the list but received no feedback; perhaps lost among
> > the discussion on text processing...
> > So I send this to you privately.
>
> Using the list would be preferred.  I get lots of e-mail and rely upon
> others on the orca-list to help me out with answers.  I also prefer to 
> have
> public discussions around these kinds of things.  :-)
>
> > A feature that I find very useful with my screen reader on that other
> > operating system is feedback on Copy, Cut and Paste.
> > So If I try to copy something that was highlighted I press Ctrl + c
> > and it will say 'copied'
> > If nothing is highlighted it will say 'nothing to copy' it works in a
> > similar way with Cut.
> > With paste it will say 'pasted' and if there is nothing to paste from
> > the clipboard it tells you 'nothing to paste'.
> > I find the above very useful indeed but as far as I can tell Orca does
> > not do this.
> > Can I request this as a feature?
>
> Right now, I'm not sure there's anything in the AT-SPI that allows us to
> know for sure that something was added to the system clipboard or pulled
> from the clipboard.  There might be some other API's that can help us, but
> I'm not sure.  I see something here, but I don't see a way to be notified
> when something is posted to or copied from the clipboard:
>
> http://www.pygtk.org/docs/pygtk/class-gtkclipboard.html
>
> There might be some sort of D-Bus protocol for working with the clipboard,
> but I'm not aware of it.  In addition, there seems to be a GUI applet
> (http://sourceforge.net/projects/glipper/) for monitoring the clipboard.
> This might be something that could be scripted.
>
> In any case, if you open an enhancement request at 
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org
> against the Orca project, we can track it.
>
> Will
>
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