Re: [orca-list] Verbalized punctuation (was Re: more than one blank space arenot recognizedin thunderbird)

[Willie Walker <William Walker Sun COM>]

Added as RFE http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=591709 so we 
don't lose track.

Willie Walker wrote:
> > However this isn't Thunderbird specific and indeed, Orca is throwing 
> > in full stops all over the place with punctuation set to all.  I get 
> > them when bringing up menus, on button labels... and all over the 
> > place where none exist.
> >
> > Something wrong here...
>
> The verbalized punctuation in Orca comes in after Orca has built up the 
> string to send to the synthesis engine.  Thus, if Orca inserts a '.' 
> when building up a string, it will be verbalized if the user has 
> requested the relevant punctuation level.
>
> Orca adds the '.' character to help with the prosody/pacing of spoken 
> output as well as the fundamental pitch contour.  In this cycle, we 
> added the '.' character to the end of mnemonics because we had a 
> complaint: without it, the pitch of the character being spoken was 
> incorrect and causing confusion.
>
> If you'd like, you can disable the injection of the '.' character by 
> adding the following lines to your ~/.orca/user-settings.py or 
> ~/.orca/orca-customizations.py file:
>
> import orca.speech_generator
> orca.speech_generator.PAUSE = []
>
> Depending upon your personal preferences and how your specific speech 
> engine behaves, you may or may not like the resulting speech.
>
> In any case, we have a dilemma.  One of the best ways to get good 
> prosody is to tell the speech engine where phrases start and end by 
> using punctuation.  Verbalized punctuation is something that most people 
> agree should be as low in the stack as possible.  At the same time, you 
> have introduced a suggestion that verbalized punctuation should only 
> apply to text from the application.
>
> For the next cycle (i.e., 2.29.x), we could potentially try to devise 
> something that allows us to distinguish between the text that Orca has 
> generated (including punctuation) and the text that has come from the 
> application.  We could then selectively apply the various filters, such 
> as verbalized punctuation, to the strings.  This, of course, assumes 
> that the next generation speech system, which is what Luke Yelavich at 
> Canonical is working on, allows us to have this kind of control.
>
> Will
>
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