I was talking about using aoss (ALSA oss software emulation, aoss is
the script you should use to start an application which normally uses
oss which you wish to use through the ALSA oss emulation). Using aoss
for oss emulation will allow software mixing. Using viavoice in
gnome-speech with an actual oss driver is not going to allow software
sound mixing.
For configuring gnome-speech drivers I believe there may be something
on the orca wiki about this and someone copied that information into a
recent message to this list. If this configuring of gnome-speech
drivers is a pain, then this is why I think gnome-speech should
actually provide the audio management for the synth. May be this should
be filed as an enhancement.
Michael Whapples
On 13/11/08 22:38, Alonzo wrote:
Hello,
When you use via voice with gnome-speech together with Oss, are you able
to have speech and system sounds/music at the same time?
alonzo
On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 22:39 +0000, Michael Whapples wrote:
This is the thing, I don't think speech-dispatcher is perfect either.
There are a few things I would say should be altered so that the
controlling app could control things better. Punctuation levels from
orca is an example and another for me is that I think the app should
be able to specify that speech-dispatcher could output to a different
sound card from its default.
I in fact use the viavoice speakup connector with speakup and the
viavoice gnome-speech driver (altered to use aoss) on my laptop and it
works well (there was some other reason which I haven't mentioned and
can't remember why I switched to this set up from speech-dispatcher
some time ago, I don't know whether the issue has been fixed but I am
not going to mess up a working system).
Speech-dispatcher shouldn't be hard to change to, the only reasons
people have found it hard comes back to the audio issue, ubuntu is
using pulseaudio and speech-dispatcher is designed as a system service
(I would say if pulseaudio has to be used then it should be a system
service, but ubuntu hasn't gone with that definition).
Michael Whapples
On 23/12/42 20:59, Steve Holmes wrote:
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Actually, Debian includes speech dispatcher as separate packages but
it is not the default speech system for gnome. However, it is easy
enough to change it such. My only complaint about Speech Dispatcher,
and it's a big one, is punctuation and capitalization. I understand
the intent was to expect the synth to handle it with minimal parms
from calling it but gnome-speech does a much better job at this. For
one thing, with gnome-speech -> espeak, I can use pitch to indicate
capital letters.Also punctuation marks are spoken clearly. When
speech dispatcher is used, I can't change punct levels from Orca but
have to modify the parm in speechd.conf and you're stuck with the way
espeak pronounces some of them. If I can get around those big items,
I'd probably switch to speech dispatcher exclusively. Then I can use
it with speakup, speechd-el in emacs as well as gnome.
One other thing with a good multi channel sound card like an SB Live
or similar, I can use gnome-speech with espeak and switch to a text
console running speakup with espeakup and espeak seemlessly. This
current combination works really well for me.
How hard would it be to get in and modify the speech dispatcher module
for Orca to handle the punctuation and capitalization like in
gnome-speak? I was thinking of cloning code from one to the other but
I don't know python well yet.
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 11:35:45AM -0600, Mike Reiser wrote:
With all the problems users have reported gettig it to work, I think that
the distros should enclude speech dispatcher and provide it as the
default. The user should not have to jump through hoops just to get the
sound to work.
Mike
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From: "Halim Sahin" <halim sahin t-online de>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 5:34 AM
To: <orca-list gnome org>
Subject: [orca-list] linux sound issues Re: Opensolaris Vs. Ubuntu
Hello,
The mentioned audio problem in linux does only ixist because no
configuration
was made to reflect accessibility needs.
I think I have written this about 20 times in this list:
Opensound drivers were not free which was the reason for creating
alsa.
OSS had no softmixing features at this time!!!
Currently a user can play and enjoy his favourite song together with
speech
output.
This needs complex configuration because no distribution does a usefull
one at this point.
Currently the biggest problem is gnomespeech.
Orca uses as default gnomespeech to provide speech.
This is not a good solution because
1. It depends on gnome but we want to use the
textconsole as well
2. it doesn't handle soundoutput itself.
All synths must implement their own output methods
This is really bad for endusers.
They want use viavoice wich is (outdated).
It uses oss as default and BTW. does it run under opensolaris?
To use oss apps with orca we have two things.
1. use direct oss compat layer output e. G. through /dev/dsp (wich is
the bad
solution).
2. Use aoss wrapper wich is should be prefered because of softmixing!!!
The best solution for all problems is Speech-dispatcher.
It has native alsa output and works great for me on all my machines
my drivers are:
snd-hda-intel, snd-emu10k1, snd-intel8x0 snd-via17xxx, snd-usb-audio.
speech-dispatcher plays the speechoutput and doesn't relay on synthesis
output stuff.
I am voting for
1. using speech-dispatcher as default speech system under orca.
2. Distributions shouldn't try to route sound of speechsystems through
soundservers like
pulseaudio!!!
Regards
Halim
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