Re: [orca-list] linux sound issues Re: Opensolaris Vs. Ubuntu

[Steve Holmes <steve holmes88 gmail com>]

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Actually, Debian includes speech dispatcher as separate packages but
it is not the default speech system for gnome.  However, it is easy
enough to change it such.  My only complaint about Speech Dispatcher,
and it's a big one, is punctuation and capitalization.  I understand
the intent was to expect the synth to handle it with minimal parms
from calling it but gnome-speech does a much better job at this.  For
one thing, with gnome-speech -> espeak, I can use pitch to indicate
capital letters.Also punctuation marks are spoken clearly.  When
speech dispatcher is used, I can't change punct levels from Orca but
have to modify the parm in speechd.conf and you're stuck with the way
espeak pronounces some of them.  If I can get around those big items,
I'd probably switch to speech dispatcher exclusively.  Then I can use
it with speakup, speechd-el in emacs as well as gnome.

One other thing with a good multi channel sound card like an SB Live
or similar, I can use gnome-speech with espeak and switch to a text
console running speakup with espeakup and espeak seemlessly.  This
current combination works really well for me.

How hard would it be to get in and modify the speech dispatcher module
for Orca to handle the punctuation and capitalization like in
gnome-speak? I was thinking of cloning code from one to the other but
I don't know python well yet.

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 11:35:45AM -0600, Mike Reiser wrote:
> With all the problems users have reported gettig it to work, I think that 
> the distros should enclude speech dispatcher and provide it as the 
> default. The user should not have to jump through hoops just to get the 
> sound to work.
>
> Mike
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> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Halim Sahin" <halim sahin t-online de>
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 5:34 AM
> To: <orca-list gnome org>
> Subject: [orca-list] linux sound issues Re:  Opensolaris Vs. Ubuntu
>
> > Hello,
> > The mentioned audio problem in linux does only ixist because no  
> > configuration
> > was made to reflect accessibility needs.
> >
> > I think I have written this about 20 times in this list:
> >
> > Opensound drivers were not free which was the reason for creating
> > alsa.
> > OSS had no softmixing features at this time!!!
> > Currently a user can play and enjoy his favourite song together with  
> > speech
> > output.
> > This needs complex configuration because no distribution does a usefull
> > one at this point.
> >
> > Currently the biggest problem is gnomespeech.
> > Orca uses as default gnomespeech to provide speech.
> > This is not a good solution because
> > 1. It depends on gnome but we want to use the
> > textconsole as well
> > 2. it doesn't handle soundoutput itself.
> > All synths must implement their own output methods
> > This is really bad for endusers.
> > They want use viavoice wich is (outdated).
> > It uses oss as default and BTW. does it run under opensolaris?
> > To use oss apps with orca we have two things.
> > 1. use direct oss compat layer  output e. G. through /dev/dsp (wich is 
> > the bad
> > solution).
> >
> > 2. Use aoss wrapper wich is should be prefered because of softmixing!!!
> >
> > The best solution for all problems is Speech-dispatcher.
> > It has native alsa output and works great for me on all my machines
> >
> > my drivers are:
> > snd-hda-intel, snd-emu10k1, snd-intel8x0 snd-via17xxx, snd-usb-audio.
> > speech-dispatcher plays the speechoutput and doesn't relay on synthesis 
> > output stuff.
> >
> > I am voting for
> > 1. using speech-dispatcher as default speech system under orca.
> > 2. Distributions shouldn't try to route sound of speechsystems through  
> > soundservers like
> > pulseaudio!!!
> > Regards
> > Halim
> >
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