Re: [orca-list] Best email solution?

["Alastair Irving" <alastair irving sjc ox ac uk>]

Personally, I still run mutt either from the gnome-terminal using orca or
from a standard virtual console using speakup.  In my opinion, just because
orca provides us with very good access to graphical applications it doesn't
necessarily make them the best for the job, and I haven't seen a graphical
email client that can compete with mutt.



Alastair Irving

-----Original Message-----
From: orca-list-bounces gnome org [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On
Behalf Of Nolan Darilek
Sent: 29 May 2008 16:39
To: orca-list gnome org
Subject: [orca-list] Best email solution?


Hello, all.

What are those of you using Orca regularly finding to be the best email 
solution? Here's what I've tried and experienced:

Evolution:Not a big fan of this interface as it seems rather cluttered. 
The way to read email messages seems to involve pressing enter on each 
one, then tabbing/arrowing X times until I've reached the message 
content area. Is there a more efficient way to do this? There are also 
lots of buttons to tab past, and tabbing through the display seems to be 
an essential aspect of reading my mail.

Thunderbird 3.0A: I recognize this is an alpha, and also note that it 
seems more accessible. I'm noticing, though, that it's **incredibly** 
eager to delete my messages. (I.e. I press enter on a message, read it 
then ctrl-w to close the window, the message is gone.) Fortunately 
deleted messages go into my trash, so they aren't truly gone, but I'm 
fishing for mail in the trash multiple times per day, and there seems to 
be an ever-increasing list of actions that cause my mail to go away. For 
instance, last night I tried clicking on an attachment with mouse keys 
to see if I could view it, and whoosh, instant deletion. :) I recognize 
that this is alpha software, so I can't be too upset about this, but I 
asked on #thunderbird today and didn't receive a huge outpouring of 
"Yeah, that's a known issue which we're all dealing with." This makes me 
wonder if it's an issue with keyboard commands, or some oddness with 
Orca's interaction that's wiping out my mail. What exactly that could 
possibly be, I don't know, but alpha or not, it strikes me as odd that 
so many would use a trigger-happy email client. :) Has anyone else 
encountered this? This is with the nightly build, and every day I'm 
prompted to install a software update, so I assume that it's downloading 
each new nightly build.

Also, I've not figured out any means of accessing attachments in either 
Evolution or Thunderbird. I've looked for menu options or buttons. I've 
tried using flat review and mouse keys to click on the text of the 
attachment filename. Is there something I'm missing?

And is there another email client I might try that works better? I'm 
mostly happy with Thunderbird, but this whole trigger-happiness is 
really bugging/scaring me, making me want to switch to another client 
until someone can confirm or resolve it. I'm also happy to file whatever 
bugs may be necessary, I'm just wondering if anyone else has experienced 
it, and the nature of the issue has me unwilling to play with it much in 
order to find an exact list of what behaviors cause it. :)

Thanks a bunch.

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