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Re: [orca-list] orca and Hardy - no speech - ibmTTS dependancy

Wil says:

This makes me wonder if we should add a "--list-apps" feature to Orca
and/or accerciser to just output the list of known apps in the AT-SPI
infrastructure.  This would serve as a quick check to tell if things
seem OK along that front.
This sounds good. However, is there a way one can do this from a remote ssh session? This is the only way to do it without assistance if the GUI is not working. Isn't there some way of doing this stuff with gconftool or whatever that is called? I seem to remember years ago when I was trying to get gnopernicus to work there were a number of gconf options you could set and query to do various things related to atspi? 

-- rich
----- Original Message ----- From: "Willie Walker" <William Walker Sun COM> 
To: "Paul Hunt" <huntp ukonline co uk>
Cc: <orca-list gnome org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [orca-list] orca and Hardy - no speech - ibmTTS dependancy



Hi All:

Something tells me this might be an AT-SPI infrastructure issue.  I
realize this isn't the most accessibility-friendly test to ask you to
try, but if you have easy access to sighted assistance to run
"accerciser", the GUI *should* list a number of apps in the left column.
 If no apps appear, then it seems like the AT-SPI infrastructure is not
starting.

This makes me wonder if we should add a "--list-apps" feature to Orca
and/or accerciser to just output the list of known apps in the AT-SPI
infrastructure.  This would serve as a quick check to tell if things
seem OK along that front.

Will

Paul Hunt wrote:

Doing "aplay -l" will tell you what sound drivers are loaded.
But if test-speech is working then I don't see how it can be a sound driver 
problem.  Yes gnome-speech works fine in the Hardy audio setup.

I would suggest redownloading and installing Orca (following the
download/install info on the wiki).  Sorry I can't be more help.

Paul
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Caloggero" <rjc MIT EDU> 
To: "Paul Hunt" <huntp ukonline co uk>
Cc: <orca-list gnome org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: [orca-list] orca and Hardy - no speech - ibmTTS dependancy



Yep, just tried. No joy.
Is there a command-line way to find out which sound drivers are in use? My 
understanding is that pulse audio is the default, but that this is not a
problem for gnome-speech users, only for speech dispatcher users. Is this 
correct?

-- Rich
----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Hunt" <huntp ukonline co uk> 
To: <orca-list gnome org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: [orca-list] orca and Hardy - no speech - ibmTTS dependancy
Yeah Espeak talks no problem for me. Have you tried running orca --setup 

Paul
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Caloggero" <rjc MIT EDU> 
To: "Paul Hunt" <huntp ukonline co uk>
Cc: <orca-list gnome org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: [orca-list] orca and Hardy - no speech - ibmTTS dependancy



Well, for me, test-speech does work (tried espeak and IBMTTS and they
both
work from test-speech).
Does your orca speak with espeak? I can't get speech at all. I just
tried
deleting my .orca tree from my home directory, hoping that it would
restore my speech driver settings to use espeak instead of IBMTTS,
thinking that this might be my issue. However, no joy and no speech.

-- Rich
----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Hunt" <huntp ukonline co uk> 
To: <orca-list gnome org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [orca-list] orca and Hardy - no speech - ibmTTS dependancy 



Hi,
I've been trying to get ttsynth to work on Hardy as well. Although in 
my
case I installed Hardy from the live CD.

I downloaded ttsynth from the website and tried installing but it
failed
because of the library you mention.  Simply installing
libstdc++2.10.glibc2.2 didn't do it.  I needed to (manually) download
and
install gnome-speech-ibmtts (got it from the debian website) but this
failed
because of dependancy problems.  Running "apt-get -f install" fixed
most
of
them but I still needed to download and install libgnome-speech-dev
(again
from debian) to continue.  This failed to install however because of
some
kind of conflict with the test-speech package also being part of
another
already installed package, gnome-speech7 or something.
Dunno if this is relevant to your problem if you had ttsynth working on 
Gutsy (and test-speech works for you) because I can't get ttsynth to
talk
at
all in Hardy.

Paul
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Caloggero" <rjc MIT EDU> 
To: <orca-list gnome org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 9:01 PM
Subject: [orca-list] orca and Hardy - no speech - ibmTTS dependancy



Luke wrote:
ttsynth/ibmtts currently depends on is libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2, which 
is
the
library that was removed from Ubuntu
hardy.
I needed to install this for Ubuntu 7.10 as well, so I just installed 
it
on
Hardy via ssh, but orca still remains stubbornly silent.

-- Rich
----- Original Message ----- From: "Luke Yelavich" <themuso themuso com> To: "Orca screen reader developers" <orca-list gnome org>; "Speakup is 
a
screen review system for Linux." <speakup braille uwo ca>; "Ubuntu
Accessibility Mailing List" <ubuntu-accessibility lists ubuntu com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 12:17 PM
Subject: [orca-list] Ttsynth/Ibmtts will no longer work,as of Ubuntu
hardy
8.04.



-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Greetings all.
I am writing to inform you all, that as of Ubuntu Hardy 8.04, to be
released in April next year, the
Ttsynth/Ibmtts speech synthesizer will no longer work, due to a
library
that it depends on, having been removed from
the Ubuntu archives. This library was a left over piece from the gcc 
2.95
and glibc 2.2 toolchain, that was kept in
ubuntu for compatibility reasons. It is actually a wonder that it has 
stayed around this long.

I appreciate the fact that there are many of you out there that use
this
synth daily, however this decision was out
of my hands, and it is a matter for the vendors to sort out. I would 
encourage users of this synth to contact the
vendor from which you purchased your license, to ask them for a
proper
resolution to this issue. The library that
ttsynth/ibmtts currently depends on is libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2, which 
is
the library that was removed from Ubuntu
hardy.

Thanks in advance for your understanding.
- - -- Luke Yelavich 
GPG key: 0xD06320CE
(http://www.themuso.com/themuso-gpg-key.txt)
Email & MSN: themuso themuso com
Jabber: themuso jabber org au
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Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca





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Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca






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http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca

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Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca
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