Re: [orca-list] Orca 2.22.0 a bad regression

[Steve Holmes <steve holmesgrown com>]

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One thing I might add in support of attending conferences, conventions
and the like, is this is yet another opportunity for evangelizing the
product.  We so often hear the complaint that not many blind folks use
Linux and they just glum on to Windows and the expensive screen
readers because they don't know, nor they willing to learn the
alternatives such as linux and now some gnome accessibility.  I would
hope that at places like CSUN, Site Village, ACB and NFB conventions
that either developers or even better yet, active users of the
alternative platforms could show up and do some "dog and pony shows"
of Linux, Speakup and Orca just to mention a few.

Glad you're back though.  One web site I went to last evening did not
exhibit the originally report problems.  http://www.scottsigler.com
I was there just briefly and successfully downloaded one of his
episodes of the podcast.

On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 09:21:48AM -0400, Willie Walker wrote:
> Hi Kenny:
>
> Giving presentations and raising awareness is part of the development 
> process.  CSUN is typically our one time during the year to do this. 
> These few short days also represent a time where the small distributed 
> team can get together face-to-face to debug and do additional planning. 
>   It's also the one time during the year for us to interact with a large 
> population of users and have valuable face-to-face conversations for 
> problems specific to them.  Furthermore, it also represents a time to 
> interact with other technology developers to lay the grounds for more 
> open source work.
>
> There will always be deadlines and dates out of our control, and 
> everything this year was kind of a "perfect storm" of such things: GNOME 
> 2.22, Firefox 3 freezing, OpenOffice 2.4, CSUN, the GNOME Accessibility 
> Outreach Program, etc.  They all occurred right around the same time and 
> they all demanded attention.
>
> These deadlines where not only complex to handle from the program 
> management perspective, but they were also very high stress because 
> things outside our control often changed and introduced unexpected 
> regressions very late in the game.  When things outside our control 
> broke (and they did), we would spend time to create detailed and 
> informative bug reports for the offending components.  We would then 
> work with the other teams in a professional manner to resolve the issues 
> quickly.  We would also take the opportunity to provide patches for the 
> other components if we were able to understand their code base.  This 
> kind of working pattern helped keep things moving forward in a 
> constructive manner.
>
> During this difficult period, our dedicated team worked around the 
> clock, and I believe we were very responsive to problems people were 
> posting.  Unfortunately, we were not able to address them all.  There 
> are more deadlines for GNOME 2.22.x releases -- 2.22.1 on April 7, 
> 2.22.2 on May 26, and 2.22.3 on June 20.  If you provide details for the 
> specific problems you are experiencing, we can move forward in a 
> constructive manner to resolve them for future releases.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Will
>
> Kenny Hitt wrote:
> > Hi.  I'm very disappointed with Orca 2.22.0  I'm trying to read several web pages with Firefox and having 
> > no luck.
> > It looks like the only way to get access to Firefox back is to downgrade to Orca 2.20.  It does work 
> > there.
> > These aren't complicated pages.  At this point, you can't even read the Gnome user guide with Firefox and 
> > Orca 2.22.0.
> > What makes this really bad is it appears Orca developers knew Firefox access was broke, but they released 
> > it any way and then left for the week.
> > Showing off new things at a conference is good, but what about your user base?  Like it or not, you now 
> > have users who depend on Firefox access.
> >
> >           Kenny
> >
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