Re: [orca-list] Getting At Off-Screen Data: A specific case

[Kenny Hitt <kenny hittsjunk net>]

Try using Firefox's find command.  Slash once will get you to the first occurrence of once on the page.
Note: I spelled out slash instead of the actual slash key.  Use the / key to start the find.

          Kenny
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 05:08:59PM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote:
> I've been trying to work with a web site that doesn't work out well
> today, but I suspect will work much better with Orca and FF3 once we
> have something called the Collection API implemented and available to us
> users. I present this here because we will need several real world use
> cases to test. Besides, I'm quite sure my example isn't the only
> example, and that I'm not the only one with this kind of problem.
>
> Here's the situation. I am using very recent Orca and FF3, usually
> current releases. In any case the behavior has not changed application
> release to application release.
>
> As a church musician currently engaged on Sunday mornings, I find
> resources such as http://cyberhymnal.org invaluable. They have over 6K
> hymns there, with lyrics, midi files, and historical information about
> the hymns. They even publish scores, though in a Win proprietary format,
> .nwc, that I haven't tried to convert to anything yet.
>
> This site is usable with Orca and FF3, but it can be very hard to use
> because often the data available through a particular page has not yet
> been rendered on the page. A simple set of steps will illustrate:
>
> 1.)   Open http://cyberhymnal.org
> 2.)   Actuate the "Titles" hyperlink
> 3.)   Actuate the "o" hyperlink. The site's 6K hymns are alphabetized.
> 4.)   Tab to the list of hymns and find the hymn entitled:
>
>       "Once To Every Man And Nation"
>
> It took me over 10 minutes to get there. The title is on the list.
> Scrolling down arrow on the list of hymns will take you there
> eventually.
>
> *     You can't invoke Orca's Find successfully, because the data
> *     isn't rendered.
> *     You can't just hold down-arrow down to let the list scroll fast,
> *     because the speech buffer won't flush--at least not with either
> *     espeak or ttsynth on my systems.
>
> Is this a candidate for Collection?
>
> A second annoying issue here is the need to tab through the alphabet
> whenever you select a different alphabetic char--to get the hymns whose
> titles start with that letter. This also quickly becomes annoying. I
> believe the remedy for this one is W3 Aria Landmarks, yes?
>
> Janina
>
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