Re: [orca-list] "Activate orca after login" suggestion

[Willie Walker <William Walker Sun COM>]

I think a desirable user scenario would be this:

1) The user uses accessible login to login into the machine.  This can 
be done if accessible login is enabled (I'd hope we all push for this to 
be the default) and the user knows the accessible login gestures.

2) The accessible login is smart enough to carry the login preferences 
over to the user session, automatically enabling accessibility if it is 
not enabled and automatically starting the same assistive technology 
used for login if the user has not already selected an assistive 
technology to automatically start.

3) The assistive technology provides an "automatically start me" feature 
that is potentially enabled by default.

With this, the not-so-technical user can get decent access out of the 
box and not require sighted assistance or rely on a priori knowledge of 
listening for system sounds (speakers, disk drives, etc.).

Thoughts?

Will

Steve Holmes wrote:
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> Unless I'm missing something here, you would have to have orca already
> running in order for the user to find the General tab.  That is gotten
> to by either pressing insert-space or clicking the preferences button
> from the Orca control panel.  In either case, Orca has to be running
> to do this.
>
> I mentioned the alt-F2 deal because that is the standard way anyone
> launches a command to gnome.  The ubuntu live cd (I think) may have
> some steps on how to start Orca automatically.  The hardest part in
> all this is knowing when the login is complete.  I don't know if
> Ubuntu uses a graphical login or not.  Some of use in Slackware and
> Debian I believe, often login to a text console and use 'startx' to
> bring up gnome.  Now one thing that perhaps could be added to Orca
> might be a startup option that could be configured from the command
> line 'orca -t'  My initial setup of Orca was done that way where I
> specified which speech system I would use and what language and
> stuff.  But again, Ubuntu might do things completely different.  it
> tends to be more turn-key than Slackware and others.  I stuck with
> Slackware because I didn't wanna have to go out and learn a whole
> brand new distro on top of learning gnome and a new screen reader all
> at the same time.
>
> On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 02:26:44PM +0000, Chris Norman wrote:
> > On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 07:25 -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
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> > > I would think the easiest way to get Orca started after login would be
> > > to simply press Alt-F2, which opens the run dialog and then just type
> > > 'orca' and hit enter.  Orca always comes up that way.  After Orca is
> > > running, then one can go into the menus and do whatever for permenant
> > > auto start for future envokations of gnome/orca.
> > But what I am saying, is that one of my friends (who is not a computer
> > novis by any stretch of the imagination), couldn't find the "start after
> > login" checkbox. What if a new user logs in and can't remember how to
> > launch Orca? They're left with a strange, daunting, and above all silent
> > system.
> >
> > Just a thought, remember back to when you started using computers!
> >
> > Take care,
> > > On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 01:23:57PM +0000, Chris Norman wrote:
> > > > Hi All,
> > > > I have just filed a bug which I think will help a lot of new users.
> > > >
> > > > One of my friends started playing with Ubuntu the other day, and he
> > > > asked how to get Orca started after login.
> > > >
> > > > I realised that it was a little odd, having to go through all the menus,
> > > > so I wondered if it was possible to create a checkbox in the general tab
> > > > of the preferences dialogue to make this easier.
> > > >
> > > > Here is the bug I submitted:
> > > >
> > > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=515196
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