Re: [orca-list] Run Vibuntu on USB with persistant storage!

["Ignasi Cambra" <ignasicambra gmail com>]

Honnestly I don't understand: if people don't want to read about Vibuntu, 
just delete any messages with Vibuntu on the subject line. It just seems 
natural that if someone is starting a project which might be of interest for 
some of us, he posts information about it on the mailing lists where he 
thinks people are going to read about it. Come on, this is not any kind of 
spam, and I don't see any bad intentions behind it. So as long as there 
aren't thousands of Vibuntu information messages every day, why do we have 
to argue about it? If Anthony posts this information on one of the lists 
only, people who are on an other list and might be interested won't get it. 
I know this sounds stupid and obvious, but not everyone is subscribed to 
three, four or five mailing lists. Even from the point of view of an 
extremely experienced user, I wouldn't be able to understand why we need to 
hate Vibuntu so much. In the end it's an unaltered version of Ubuntu which 
incorporates some of the changes that we all do to a new Ubuntu install 
before using it. And wether I am very skilled or not, I preffer to disable 
the authomatic login in Vibuntu than to configure Orca to read all those 
apps etc etc. And if Anthony finally gets Vibuntu to ship with Alsa instead 
of PulseAudio, and Speech-Dispatcher, why would I waste my time in 
configuring it if there is a distribution that ships with it? I think we can 
all help Vibuntu to be whatever we need it to be, and I think it can be 
pretty useful to anyone.
Just my opinion, as always... I find this comunity is really great, but 
sometimes it seems like we just can't get over the fact that some of us know 
more about Linux than others, and have different needs than others etc.

I
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Anthony Sales" <tony sales rncb ac uk>
To: "Tomas Cerha" <cerha brailcom org>
Cc: <ubuntu-accessibility lists ubuntu com>; 
<gnome-accessibility-list gnome org>; <orca-list gnome org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Run Vibuntu on USB with persistant storage!


> I have been cross-posting because I presumed there would be some people who
> are only subscribed to one list, like I was at first (Ubuntu)until someone
> advised me to post on the Orca list, and then someone else asked me to 
> post
> on Gnome, and since then someone has asked me to post on the Ally list as
> well. Which list do people think it would be best to focus on: Ubuntu, 
> Orca
> or Gnome. I suppose Ubuntu is the most relevant but there seems to be a 
> lot
> more traffic on the other two lists, the Orca one particularly. Or is it 
> just
> a few grumpy old men who disapprove of young whippersnappers like me 
> babbling
> enthusiastically about their geekish obsessions? Can subscribers let me 
> know
> what they think. The results will be based on a democratic vote, the 
> judges
> decision is final, employees and relatives of employees are not entitled 
> to
> enter!
>
> Drbongo
>
> Damn I just cross-posted again! Doh!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tomas Cerha [mailto:cerha brailcom org]
> Sent: 17 December 2008 12:34
> To: Anthony Sales
> Subject: Re: Run Vibuntu on USB with persistant storage!
>
> Anthony Sales napsal(a):
> > Sorry if I have annoyed anybody, as the project is very new I am still
> > trying to reach as wide an audience as possible.
>
> Of course, I understand your motivation.  However this doesn't change
> anything.
>
> > I will try to limit any
> > announcements or developments to one a day from now on, excluding
> > answering individual queries that people may have!
>
> Cross posting is a bad practice in any case.  If you could at least choose
> one mailing list, that would be significantly more considerate to the 
> others.
> You can announce where you are moving Vibuntu discussions on the other 
> lists
> so those who are interested will not miss it.
>
> Thank you and best regards, Tomas
>
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