Re: [orca-list] Another newby, with some questions

[Farhan <i am farhan gmail com>]

hello, i'm using espeak with speech-dispatcher and I can also use espeak with gnome-speech.
I'm really not sure what the problem is but when I am using orca with espeak it just doesn't run as smooth as 
when I use somehting like dectalk for example.
I think the biggest problem I am having is in gnome-terminal, when I press a keyboard command for example 
using flatreivew to read up and down the screen if I hit the bottom of the screen to fast orca just keeps 
repeating the last statement over and over again, I don't know, maybe i just am trying to go to fast?
Maybe someone else can explain the simular simtoms further.

On 8/27/2008 at 14:00 Willie Walker said
That seems like a pretty decent machine.  So...I guess the next thing to 
do is get more specific about where you are experiencing sluggishness, 
and more about your specific environment (e.g., speech synthesis engine, 
applications you are using, how you are interacting with them, etc.). 
Can you describe these further?

Will

Farhan wrote:
> hp nx 6325
> amd turion 64 bit tl 52
> 1.66 ghz with 1.5 gigs of ram.
> if you can come up with some suggestions it'd be much appriciated.
> On 8/27/2008 at 10:46 Willie Walker said
> When I see things like 'refurbished machine' and 256MB of RAM, it makes
> me wonder if the hardware in use is perhaps part of the issue.  What are
> the specs of the hardware being used?
>
> Will
>
> On Tue, 2008-08-26 at 18:57 -0500, Farhan wrote:
> > Hello, I agree with everything you've said so far. espeak is alright, but I agree that orca is rather 
> > sluggish compared to a windows or mac osx machine.
> > I am also wonder how do people use orca everyday with this sluggishness?
> > I'm not bagging on the orca developers, because I think orca is a great project,  and it has made great 
> > strides in the accessibleness of LInux, I am or have been waiting for orca to be as responsive as Windows 
> > so I can finally switch and this is making me rather frustrated.
> > Is the responsiveness of orca do to the python code being used? I'm not a programmer so I have know clue 
> > about such things.
> > When using orca with speech-dispatcher and espeak, its just as slow as with using it with gnome-speech.
> > I wonder  if most people are using orca with braille and do not encounter all these  unresponsive problems.
> >
> > On 8/26/2008 at 18:53 JM & Angel said
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I've been lurking on the list for a few weeks now, reading some of the 
> > comments, questions and so on as I try and get going with Linux. I'm pretty 
> > new to the operating system, having used it a little remotely from a shell 
> > in the 90s and learning a lot of basic file manipulation stuff along with 
> > the usual Internet programmes. I'm using Windows for most things now, and 
> > have wanted to get a machine and run Linux on it for a long time, so I could 
> > tinker and learn the OS; maybe even ditch Microsoft for the most part if I 
> > find that Linux works well for me.
> >
> > A really helpful and knowledgeable person got me a nice refurbished machine 
> > and installed Ubuntu 8.04 on it for me. She successfully got Orca running in 
> > the Gnome desktop, but after playing around with it for a while I noticed 
> > that the screenreader seemed very sluggish and unresponsive. I upgraded to 
> > 512 MB of ram from 256, thinking this might improve things, and while the OS 
> > runs quicker in general I still find Orca almost excruciating to use. One 
> > odd and possibly related thing I've noticed is that even though I have both 
> > key and word echo turned off, if I'm typing a document or even entering an 
> > URL, Orca seems to be trying to keep up with my keystrokes. It never speaks 
> > until I've typed several characters, at which point it spits out some 
> > slightly garbled version of what I've typed so far. At first I thought it 
> > was some weird software quirk, but I think, after typing a lot more and 
> > being quite distracted by this, that it can't be normal behaviour.
> >
> > I'm using the Espeak synthesiser at the moment .. definitely far from wild 
> > about it and I might be obtaining a Dectalk Express synth soon to make this 
> > just a little bit more manageable. Another thing I noticed is that Orca 
> > seems to "flake out" at seemingly random times without any justification. I 
> > might be browsing a page in firefox, or even in the terminal, or my partner 
> > might hit one of the mouse buttons to do something quickly, and orcca just 
> > freezes. The process still runs, but there's simply no speech. In order to 
> > get it working again I have to quit Orca and restart it (it will let me quit 
> > and doesn't have to be killed).
> >
> > I know that this isn't much to go on really, but the sluggishness in 
> > particular has kept me from really tinkering with my new box as much as I'd 
> > like. I have a lot to learn and right now am reading about Linux on the 
> > windows computer because it's so much faster and more responsive! I guess at 
> > this point I am just wondering if anybody has any ideas or suggestions for 
> > me. I've looked at the Orca FAQ, but I'm afraid I'm still at a loss. It 
> > can't really be this slow for everyone can it?
> >
> > Regards,
> > JM
> >
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