Re: [orca-list] Glade interface designer

["Rich Caloggero" <rjc MIT EDU>]

How does glade compare to something like XUL (the XML interface language 
which mozilla technology uses)?  From what I understand, XUL is pretty close 
to what HTML5 will be -- i.e. like xhtml with lots of specialized widgets 
"built in".  I'm guessing that glade is much more based on laying things out 
by hand on a canvass, where as xul and html5 layout things automatically for 
you based on the position of objects in the input data modified with style 
sheet rules.

-- Rich

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jon" <j orcauser googlemail com>
To: "Rui Batista" <ruiandrebatista gmail com>
Cc: <orca-list gnome org>
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Glade interface designer


> Hi,
>
> Unfortunately, as you have found, it is quite hard/virtually impossible
> to use glade as a blind designer.
>
> One could write the python (or any other language for that matter) code
> to create the gtk widgets and connect things up (i.e. the same way as
> before glade was made available), but this is long winded and requires
> time.
> So far, i have been finding glade xml files, and searching for widgets
> then copying the chosen widgets and modifying these to suit my needs to be 
> a
> quicker process, despite the trial and error.
>
> There are several glade-3 related accessibility bugs open, and the more
> people comment and request these to be looked at, the hopefully sooner
> they will get some attension.
> I havent tried the svn/cvs (dont know which) latest version, so don't
> know if it has improved.
>
>
> glade3 bug list:
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?columnlist=target_milestone%20priority%20bug_severity%20assigned_to%20short_desc&query_format=advanced&product=glade3&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&order=bugs.target_milestone,bugs.priority%2Cbugs.bug_severity%2Cbugs.target_milestone%2Cbugs.bug_id
>
> accessibility related:
>
> unusable in HighContrastInverse theme
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=490157
> Command line interface for glade
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=359661
> property/signal fields not associated with labels
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=524541
> need non-visual way of placing widgets on canvas
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=524545
>
> -Jon
> On Sun 03/08/2008 at 15:31:44, Rui Batista wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Is there a way for blind users running orca use the glade
> > (http://glade.gnome.org/) designer?... I tried working with this thing
> > but can create just top level windows...  On the glade user's manual
> > there is no reference to keyboard shortcuts nor something. It is strange
> > because glade folks supply controles for defining acessibility
> > properties but there program seems not so accessible....
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Rui Batista
> >
> > --
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