Re: [orca-list] Can we drop FireVox support in Orca?

[Christopher Moore <chris w1gm gmail com>]

Hello,
There is now an option in firevox to use an emacspeak server.  This 
allows speech output from ff2 on linux, windows or mac.  You can 
read about it on the Raman's emacspeak blog.  It should also be noted 
the firevox extension does not work with ff3.  
Not sure why firefox and orca were ever integrated in the first place.  
So, you can run ff2 with firevox using the emacspeak server, or ff3 with 
orca.  

Chris
On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 03:42:20PM +0100, Michael Whapples 
wrote:
> Hello,
> I know that mathml support is probably not something most users will
> need, so having it disabled by default is fine. As an indication of how
> little it might be used, when I reinstalled linux on one of my machines
> (probably a couple of months or so ago) I still haven't reinstalled
> firevox, but as I said I may need to in the future (unless another
> mathml access system is available). In some ways I think if firevox was
> to support speech-dispatcher then orca support wouldn't be needed (as
> orca doesn't produce braille output for firevox anyway so nothing would
> be lost).
>
> From
> Michael Whapples
> On Sat, 2008-04-05 at 07:42 -0400, Willie Walker wrote:
> > Thanks Michael!  Good enough - we'll keep it.
> >
> > At a minimum, however, would you be OK with us disabling the support by 
> > default and then requiring you to edit your user-settings.py or 
> > orca-customizations.py files to re-enable it?  We could alternatively 
> > add an enable/disable checkbox to the GUI preferences dialog, but I'd 
> > like to avoid exposing it at that level if we can.
> >
> > Will
> >
> > Michael Whapples wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > I will state one use of firevox which I am unaware of orca providing,
> > > but should orca and firefox provide a solution (which in my mind might
> > > be more preferrable as the mechanisms which would be used might be able
> > > to be used by other software, and braille support might be possible)
> > > then firevox support would not be needed. The case I am on about is
> > > mathml. Admittedly the firevox support has limitations, it doesn't know
> > > all the characters and other more complicated maths stuff, but I feel
> > > some access is better than none. I will also admit that currently I am
> > > not actively using firevox for this at the moment, but there may be
> > > times in the future and in the past where I may/have benefitted from
> > > access to mathml documents.
> > >
> > > I know there may be more important features orca needs and there may be
> > > very good reasons for dropping this support, so I hope you will use the
> > > above while making the decission, so as to improve orca in the best way
> > > with the resources available.
> > >
> > > Michael Whapples
> > > On Fri, 2008-04-04 at 16:42 -0400, Willie Walker wrote:
> > > > Hey All:
> > > >
> > > > Before your heart stops and your flaming fingers start typing: that's 
> > > > Charles Chen's FireVox with a 'V'.  Not Mozilla's Firefox.
> > > >
> > > > Is anyone depending upon Orca for FireVox's speech synthesis output? 
> > > > The support is currently done via a hacky HTTP server in Orca and I'm 
> > > > considering getting rid of that server for various reasons.  The main 
> > > > impact will be on FireVox users that use Orca for the TTS output -- I'm 
> > > > guessing there are no real users of this feature, but I want to be sure.
> > > >
> > > > Please only respond if you are using this feature and it will impact you 
> > > > negatively if it goes away.
> > > >
> > > > Will
> > > >
> > > > PS - Again, please respond only if this will have a negative impact on 
> > > > you.  Here's an example of a response that will not help: "The HTTP 
> > > > server support in Orca is bad.  You suck."
> > >
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