Re: [orca-list] Question about Magnifier Zoomer settings

[Bryen <suseROCKS bryen com>]

On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 13:51 -0200, Carlos Eduardo Rodrigues DiÃgenes
wrote:
> Hi Bryen,
>
> 2007/11/29, Bryen <suseROCKS bryen com>:
> > I pose this only as a question and not a criticism, as I wish to learn
> > the reasoning behind the development of key pieces of Orca.
> >
> > When I first used Orca with the magnifier, it took up the full right
> > half of my screen.  Personally, I prefer the magnifier to be across the
> > top of my screen.  After some poking around, I found the zoomer settings
> > under the magnifier tab.  It took some trial and error as I tried to
> > figure out what the numeric values meant for top bottom left right.  My
> > settings are now
> >
> > top 1
> > bottom 201
> > left 100
> > right 1014
> >
> > Has there been any discussion about making this easier for the end-user?
> > I was thinking that there are two ways to make it easier:
> >
> > One would be to be able to grab and re-size the magnifier window just
> > like you would any other window on your desktop.
>
> I believe that this a great enhancement to be done in gnome-mag (yeah,
> this is the underlying magnifier program), but I guess that gnome-mag
> will not see any new features in a near future, since in the last
> months I was the only active programmer in it, and I dropped this work
> for an undefined amount of time, since I have other priorities.

I just came across this magnifier on sourceforge.
http://magnifier.sourceforge.net/

It has the features that I mentioned looking for, but in some ways it
sucks too.  You cannot click or type with it, only use it to look at
something.  Maybe we could see about joining things together there?

The nice thing about that particular magnifier is that it has uses for
non-a11y users.  I'm a strong believer that when you make a11y tools
useful for non-a11y users, you get a stronger level of involvement.  I
feel for you, being the only active programmer on gnome-mag, and sorely
wish I knew a thing or two about coding.

> > The other way would be to change the zoomer setting options to a more
> > user-friendly set of options.  Like zoomer position = top half, bottom
> > half, left half or right half.
>
> I also think that this can be great and this is really easy to do, and
> be sure, you ask for it in the right mailing list! Probably in the
> next release of orca you will see something like this.
I noticed that when I ran the magnifier manually on the CLI with the -h
or -v switch, I got the effect I was looking for.

> Best regards,
> Carlos.
>
> > Also, out of curiosity, what is the underlying magnifier program?  Is it
> > gnome-mag?
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