Re: [orca-list] Orca 2.18 on Debian Sid

Hi.  Thanks for all the help.  Actually, you're going to laugh when I tell
you what the problem turned out to be.  I just thought that I'd take a
look at the ps table and grep for window managers.  Turns out though that
for some unkown reason, gdm was started, but xfce was also started.  Funny
thing though is that the ATSPI libraries were successfully initialized.
so I just removed all the xfce packages and restarted gdm.  Logged out and
back in to the desktop and ORCA did start.  so far, I'm very impressed
with the support of Writer and Calc.  What a wonderful job
everyone's doing.  This is becoming a first-rate screen reader solution,
and I can't wait untill the QT foks have support for atSpi.  One thing
thouh.  Seems to me that access to gaim isn't reliable.  For some reason,
I've not been able to get Orca to access the UI of gaim reliably.  Its as
if ORCA isn't fully ware tha t exists.  Though when it is, it works
flawlessly.  I was actually able to have conversations with my buddies who
use the AIM service.  Looking  back a few weeks ago, I remember that we
had a discussion about sound issues and gnome-speech.  I can say for the
record that I'm using a soundcard with the CS46XX soundchip which actually
does hardware mixing on the fly.  So  Gnome-Speech and media players,
actually any other sounds are mixed into the stream just fine.  I suspect
that those of you who are having problems probably don't have a soundcard
which does true hardware mixing.


On Tue, 1 May 2007, Jan and Bertil Smark Nilsson wrote:

Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 19:19:44 +1000 (EST)
From: Jan and Bertil Smark Nilsson <jbsn tpg com au>
To: Erik Heil <eheil sdf lonestar org>
Cc: Orca Developer's Mailing List <orca-list gnome org>
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Orca 2.18 on Debian Sid

Hello Erik,

On Mon, 30 Apr 2007, Erik Heil wrote:

Hi everyone.  I've noticed that Orca hs just became avilable in Sid.  I've
installed it from the Debian apt repository, and ran orca setup.  Flite
speaks fine during the setup process, where I can choose what I want.
Presently, I selected gnome-speech, and it initialized he accessibility
framework. I logged out, then logged back in.  I can tell that Orca
started, b/c I'm greeted by the Welcome to Orca message, at which point,
it switched to focus tracking mode.  Here's the problem though.  After it
switched, Orca is totally unresponsive. i.e. you can't use any review
keys, etc.  Its as if Orca was never started.  Anyone else experience this
on the list?

It could still be working. You could try alt+f1, down arrow once, press o and
up arrow twice. Press <enter> and, with a bit of luck, you sould be in Open
Office Writer, and it should start talking. However, this is not very
satisfactory. I've had the problem, and it seems to have something to do with
at-spi and which version of Gnome that you're running. You could try doing a
dist-upgrade to unstable and see if things improve. As far as I know, not all
of Gnome 2.18 is there yet, but it works for me. On the other hand, i've been
playing around a bit.

Good luck!

Bertil Smark Nilsson

eheil sdf lonestar org
SDF Public Access UNIX System -

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