Re: [orca-list] Firefox Weirdness

[Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis <bhawkeslewis googlemail com>]

Hi Justin

I'm confused as to whether you experienced the problem on the main 
article page or the print-ready article page. It would help if you 
copied and pasted the URL for the page on which Orca is actually failing 
rather than just the homepage for the site as a whole. If there URL is 
too long to put in an email, use an URL-shortening service like

http://www.urlx.org/

or

http://tinyurl.com/

My best guess was that you mean:

http://www.urlx.org/washingtonpost.com/e78c0

Which is the print-ready version of "Why Won't We Let Them Fill the 
Ranks?" When I go to this article, the first row of links is read fine. 
Pressing up and down with the arrow keys makes Orca read the article 
line by line. Pressing h moves it to the "Ads by Google" heading. 
Pressing v reveals there are no already visited links on the page and 
pressing u moves me to the first unvisited link.

I did experience difficulties using the down arrow key to move through 
the non-print version of the article:

http://urlx.org/washingtonpost.com/ac3df

Under "Most viewed articles", when it reaches the list item "Clinton, 
Giuliana Maintain Leads, But GOP Shows Signs of Shifting", Orca stops 
and returns to the top of the list to read "Updated" and becomes trapped 
in an endless cycle.

--
Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis

Justin Harford wrote:
> Hello
>
> Well at any rate I have something else.  When I go to 
> www.washingtonpost.com and click on the article entiteled something like 
> "why they can't join the ranks" about soldiers being refused in the 
> american army.  I go into that, and find the print this article link, it 
> loads the page and reads across the first row of links.  That is all.  
> When I try to move up and down with the arrow keys, nothing happens.  
> When I try to press orca keys "h" "V" "u" etc for headings and links, 
> nothing.
>
> I can definitely understand wanting to preserve the sight's structure.  
> Voiceover for mac os x does exactly that with its groups mode function, 
> but voiceover allows you to move around the page more freely, giving 
> respect to its structure.  You can move your cursor left, right, up and 
> down and skip whatever parts of text you feel like.  It does not have 
> any header finding keys.  Other keys that allow you to find forms, and 
> links, are not parts of voiceover but they do work.
>
> Orca has its own keys for all of this, and it only seems to want to 
> allow me to move down the page.  It seems to be in between wanting to be 
> a screenreader that reproduces the structure of the web page and a 
> screenreader that simply builds it in a continuous string of elements 
> like jaws.
>
> Justin Harford
>
> "A man's memory is bound to be a distortion of his past in accordance 
> with his present interests, and the most faithful autobiography is 
> likely to mirror less what a man was than what he has become."
>
> Fawn M. Brodie
>
>
>
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