Re: [orca-list] gnome-mag cursor focus position

["Aurelian Radu" <ricaradu gmail com>]

Hi Willie,

 

I can see how this approach makes sense, especially if you use a low magnification factor (2x, 3x etc.) I use 9x or 10x. The "move the magnifier window the least" is OK for checkboxes, buttons, menus or the caret, although having focused items in the center of the magnifier window would help find them more easily. The problem is with editing text. For example, if you delete a long line of text using Del the cursor will eventually reach the right edge of the magnifier window and you can't see what you are deleting anymore. If you delete text using Backspace the cursor will reach the left edge of the magnifier and you can't see what you're deleting anymore. You can try this with any text editor. I think it is more natural to be able to see the area around your point of focus.

 

It would be great if you could add the option of keeping focus centered all the time (for cursor, caret, menus, buttons, menus, etc.)

 

I currently use Windows XP and the built-in magnifier, because magnification doesn't work very reliably for me in Linux right now. But it has come a very long way and I hope I will be able to switch soon. For better illustration of what I've tried to describe you could check out how the Windows magnifier works (if you have access to a Windows system). Just run magnifier.exe, drag it to the bottom of the screen until it docks, drag the upper edge upwards to increase the size of the window and use it with a text editor, browser, navigation by keyboard through menus etc.

 

Thank you for you help,

 

Aurelian

 

 

On 7/10/07, Willie Walker <William Walker sun com> wrote:

Hi Aurelian:

(Moving this to orca-list gnome org)

The algorithm in Orca right now goes on a 'move the magnifier window the
least' rule, meaning that it tries not to move the zoomer view if the
thing is already in the window.  As a result, Orca currently doesn't
support the behavior you are looking for.  :-(  We could always add it
as an RFE (request for enhancement) if you'd like, though.

Can you describe more about what you expect the behavior to be?  For
example, you've mentioned keeping the text cursor/caret centered.  What
should the behavior be when navigating widgets, such as menus, buttons,
checkboxes, sliders, etc?

Will

On Tue, 2007-07-10 at 23:48 +0300, Aurelian Radu wrote:
> Hi Peter,
>
> Thank you for your answer.
>
> I was referring to the cursor in applications where you enter text.
> The mouse pointer is indeed centered when using the magnifier alone or
> through orca. But I need to use orca if I want gnome-mag to follow
> text editing or keyboard focus. The cursor is not centered, the
> magnifier follows it only when it reaches the end of the magnification
> screen.
>
> I know my "description" isn't very clear, but try to write something
> in oowriter or gedit while using gnome-mag through orca and you'll see
> what I mean.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Aurelian
>
>
> On 7/10/07, Peter Korn < Peter Korn sun com> wrote:
>         Hi Aurelian,
>
>         If you are running gnome-mag directly (e.g. 'magnifier'), and
>         have it
>         tracking the mouse directly ( e.g. 'magnifier -m'), then the
>         mouse
>         pointer will be in the center of the screen automatically by
>         default.
>
>         If you are running gnome-mag via a screen reader like Orca or
>         Gnopernicus, then you need to set the appropriate setting in
>         your screen
>         reader (e.g. "Mouse tracking mode" to "Centered").
>
>
>         Regards,
>
>         Peter Korn
>         Accessibility Architect,
>         Sun Microsystems, Inc.
>
>         > Hello,
>         >
>         > Is there any setting I can change to make gnome-mag keep
>         cursor focus
>         > in the middle of the magnification window, like it does with
>         mouse
>         > pointer focus, not at the right margin? To be more clear, I
>         want to
>         > see the characters I'm typing in the middle of the
>         magnification
>         > window, like it used to be in previous versions of orca
>         and/or
>         > gnome-mag. From what I understand, this is an orca setting,
>         but I
>         > can't find it anywhere.
>         >
>         > Thank you,
>         > Aurelian
>         >
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