Re: [orca-list] Installing Ubuntu

not to worry, everyone started as a noobie at some point :) 

the reason why i pointed towards google is that generally people dont 
enjoy answering the same questions over and over again, when the 
knowledge is easely available.

anyway, mounting
if you wish to mount a partition by hand, then at the prompt:
sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mountpoint

for example i could mount my ntfs partition as follows:
sudo mkdir /mnt/windows
sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows

you need to find out what ubuntu decided to call your hard-drive(s) 
either sda or hda
then sda1 means the first partition, sda2 second etc...

if you do:
ls -1 /dev/ | grep sda
ls -1 /dev/ | grep hda
the one that displays with numbers is your harddrive.
If you have more than one harddrive then try sdb and hdb

anyway, that was for mounting by hand. If you wanted some partitions to 
be mounted every time you started ubuntu, then you need to modify 

for example to mount a fat32 partition:
/dev/sda2       /mnt/fat32      vfat    0 0

and for an ntfs:
/dev/sda3       /mnt/ntfs       ntfs    0 0

this mounts as read only, to mount ntfs partitions as rewritables need 
to install ntfs-3g
sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g

then we could change the line in fstab to:
/dev/sda3       /mnt/ntfs       ntfs-3g 0 0

a lot more information can be found here:

hope this helps, and sorry for posting this to the Orca-list, just 
thought maybe someone else might benafit too.

On Wed 11/07/2007 at 21:47:54, Parham wrote:
Can you give me info about mounting?
Sorry for asking so much questions. I don't check Linux manuals because 
they mostly go into details I don't yet need to know, and they have no 
examples. I learn best with examples.
So you would please excuse me for my questions and seem newbie-ish.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jon" <j orcauser googlemail com>
To: "Parham" <parham16 gmail com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Installing Ubuntu

Thats not a problem, resize whichever one you feel can give most space.

about accessing the data on the fat32 partitions, thats not a problem
either, they could be mounted.


On Wed 11/07/2007 at 21:21:48, Parham wrote:
Well what about my other data? They are in FAT32 partitions.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jon" <j orcauser googlemail com>
To: "Parham" <parham16 gmail com>
Cc: "Jon" <j orcauser gmail com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Installing Ubuntu

Yes indeed, partition magic would do it too.

Ubuntu will format it itself, just resizing the ntfs is fine, it will
install on the unallocated space (it will be obvious when you get to
that screen, as long as you got some free space left).


On Wed 11/07/2007 at 19:53:14, Parham wrote:
Well I can also use Partition magic then.
I would create a 3 gb empty space on my harddrive and tell Linux to
there. Would that work?
And does it have to be empty, or Linux would format that space itself?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jon" <j orcauser googlemail com>
To: "Parham" <parham16 gmail com>
Cc: <orca-list gnome org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Installing Ubuntu

Hello there,

Keeping your old data is fine, as long as you have enough free space 
your hard drive to install ubuntu along side.

Usually windows formats the whole drive as a windows partition (ntfs),
so you might need to resize it to get some free space.
Alternatively if you have a secondary hard drive, which you wish to
install ubuntu onto then this isnt a problem either.

I am not aware of any method of resizing ntfs partitions in windows
using any free tools, on the other hand there is a linux live cd which
can help you with this:

gparted iso located at:
and look for gparted-livecd-0.3.4-8.iso

Yes, the ubuntu instalation does have a formatting/resizing step in 
installation, but I have been unable to get it to resize ntfs 
in the past.

So, burn gparted to cd

reboot, and resize ntfs such that you have free (sometimes called
unallocated) space, at the end of the disk, (probably need a minimum 
3 gigabytes).

Now that you have unallocated space on your harddrive, reboot with the
ubuntu cd, and you can proceed with the installation.
Note, when it comes to the step about where on your hard-drive you 
to install to, simply choose unallocated space.

by the way, there are excellent tutorials on the ubuntu forums, a 
search in google yields many results:

dual boot ubuntu

Hope this helps

On Wed 11/07/2007 at 15:32:28, Parham wrote:
I have a PC that has windows XP SP 2 home edition on it, and I want 
install Linux on that.
I wanted to know how I can prevent losing my personal data, I.E, 
programs, downloads, and such.
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