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Re: Orca cross-post: braille not working with orca 2.17.4

Thanks for the clarification, Will.

Janina

Willie Walker writes:

Hi Janina:

The Pyrex requirement is not an Orca requirement.  Instead, it's
required by BrlAPI to build the Python bindings for BrlAPI.  As such, it
is something that needs to be handled by the folks that build/ship
BrlAPI.

Will

On Thu, 2007-01-04 at 09:57 -0500, Janina Sajka wrote:

In an earlier post you asked Don to check for the presence of Pyrex. So,
if that's a requirement, I think there's also the additional issue for
those who build packages.  If Pyrex is required by Orca to build
properly for braille support, that needs to be specified in the rpm
.spec file. It's especially important as Pyrex isn't installed by
default when Fedora is installed. I don't know whether Ubuntu and Debian
specify this correctly, but they should if they don't yet.

So, I've cc'd this note to Dave and am suggesting he ad Pyrex (with a Capital P) to brltty's
BuildRequires statement. I guess this also means we should have a new
rpm build following the new Orca fix below.

Janina


Janina

Willie Walker writes:

Just to make sure we're all on the same page: I believe the problem is
that incompatible changes were made to the Python bindings for BrlAPI
0.5.0 between December 17 and now.  Since BrlAPI 0.5.0 is still under
development, it is an annoyance, but still OK, for the BrlAPI developers
to do this.  

I've been trying to track the BrlAPI 0.5.0 development as fast as I can,
checking code into the Orca v2.17.* (unstable) code base as I go.  I
have a change ready to go back into the code base, but there's one last
problem I'd like to resolve before doing so.  That last problem is the
fact that cursor routing keys no longer seem to get sent to Orca by
BrlTTY/BrlAPI, and I have a question into the BrlTTY/BrlAPI folks on
this.

Will 


On Wed, 2007-01-03 at 16:50 -0700, Donald Raikes wrote:

Janina,

Originally I installed from the brltty-3.7.2-1.i386.rpm, and later
pulled the updated brltty from svn and built it.

A couple of days ago I found the brlapi-0.4.1-1.i386.rpm and attempted
to install it, but was given the message that a newer version of the
brlapi already was installed.
I ran 

rpm -qa | grep -i 'brlapi'
and got a response taht brlapi-0.5.0 was installed.

I just used rpm to remove brltty 3.7.2, and then re-installed it from
the rpm.
I ran yum update and it pulled brltty-3.7.2-1.fc6.rpm from the
development repository.

rpm now shows that Ihave brlapi 0.4.1 installed, but I am still getting
the crashes with orca and braille.
On Wed, 2007-01-03 at 12:05 -0500, Janina Sajka wrote:

Willie Walker writes:

Hi Don:

I'm going to guess this problem might be due to the fact that the build
of BrlTTY will not build the Python bindings for BrlAPI unless pyrex is
installed.  You can test to see if the Python bindings for BrlAPI are
installed by doing the following from inside the python shell (to enter
the python shell, just type "python" at a command line prompt):

python -c "import brlapi"

If this issues an error, then the Python bindings for BrlAPI were not
built or installed as part of the BrlTTY build and you probably need to
install pyrex on your machine.


Janina here ...

I would be interested to know whether you installed from rpms, if this
is the case. You should have a brlapi rpm in addition to orca and
brltty.



Hope this helps,

Will

On Tue, 2007-01-02 at 16:07 -0700, Donald Raikes wrote:

Hello,

Sorry for the cross-posting, but Ihave been trying to get this to work
for a couple of weeks, and so far no success.

I have fedora core 6 kernel 2.6.18-1.2868fc6 installed, and have the
latest brltty from svn running.

I upgraded to orca 2.17.4, although this problem existed in earlier
versions as well.

I am unable to get my alva satellite display to work with orca.
I have tried having brltty start on boot of the system, then starting
orca, but no braille in gnome.
if I don't start the brltty before login, how do I know when it is ready
for me to login?

I am a very "visual" learner, and work best with a combination of speech
and braille output, so it is very important for me to get this working
ASAP.

Thanks for any tips.

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