Re: [orca-list] Orca install

[Michael Whapples <mwhapples aim com>]

I've found gnome slacky (www.slacky.eu) or for english only speaking
people
(http://www.slacky.eu/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2475) is
a good and up to date gnome distribution (2.20.1) for slackware, and
that is what I am using at this very moment.

I haven't really had any problems with slackware and gnome slacky
(particularly in the area of accessibillity), so would have to disagree
that slackware is bad for accessible GUIs. Admittedly it would be nice
if there was an official slackware gnome system, but this is a good
option.

From
Michael Whapples
On Fri, 2007-12-14 at 16:49 -0600, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> Slackware is the most difficult g.u.i. accessibility environment I've had 
> occassion to use to date.  The only way anyone is ever going to get any 
> g.u.i. accessibility on slackware is to get the real gnome from the gnome 
> foundation with all parts present and get that built and installed first. 
> I know for sure gargnome is a cut down version of gnome and the stuff 
> needed for accessibility was specifically targeted for the gelding knife. 
> It's an easy enough install, just not worth the disk space once done.
>
>
>
> On Fri, 14 Dec 2007, Michael Whapples wrote:
>
> > Hello Hermann,
> > On Fri, 2007-12-14 at 12:19 +0100, Hermann wrote:
> > > I use GRML on my desktop machine, and I'm quite satisfied.
> > > However there are some Notes: It is rather difficault to build Gnome and
> > > Orca on GRML, because you need a lot of packages, among them some
> > > experimental stuff.
> > I haven't actually tried using GRML much as a full system, just as a
> > very handy liveCD. As I had understood it, as it is debian based I
> > thought you could use the debian packages, or does GRML have some
> > differences like ubuntu which prevents you from using packages from
> > debian (or other debian based distros)?
> >
> > > I tried it about a year ago with no success, so I switched to Ubuntu; I
> > > would have prefered using Gnome and Orca on GRML.
> > Its a shame that its so hard to get gnome and orca on GRML. There isn't
> > any projects to build gnome distributions for GRML? Although Slackware
> > doesn't have gnome now by default, there are a few projects (gnome
> > slacky (http://www.slacky.eu), dropline gnome (www.droplinegnome.org),
> > gnome slack build project (www.gnomeslackbuild.org) (their binaries I
> > think are old but they are trying to bring it back to life with a gnome
> > 2.20.x build) and the slackpack and slackbot system which has a gnome
> > package (www.mkanet.de). There probably are more). I think most (if not
> > all) of those slackware gnome systems come with orca.
> >
> > > The speakup module is working, but if you have to use a language
> > > different from English, there are some limits: According to the manual
> > > of speechd-up, it doesn't speak correctly in a non-english environment,
> > > and that's exactly true. In my case German umlauts are not recognized,
> > > although Espeak and SD can handle it; it works in other environments,
> > > such as Emacs with Speechd-el.
> > What version of speechd-up is this? I thought in speechd-up 0.4 (or
> > whatever the latest is) that it was meant to have better international
> > support, and that if you wanted the old style (where speakup changed the
> > characters to words) you need to pass speechd-up the option -t. May be
> > the version in GRML is older than that one I am on about, or may be it
> > doesn't work as well as it might and I don't know as I only use it in
> > english.
> >
> > > I also prefer working on a text console, but it's not always possible,
> > > especially on advanced websites and if you need a wordprocessor.
> > > If this gap could be closed, a console would be sufficent.
> > As for the word processor, the LaTeX language is in my mind far superior
> > to any word processor for writing documents, and there are tools such as
> > catdoc and antiword for viewing those word documents that people insist
> > on sending. I have to agree with you about the website thing, normally
> > there is a way around with one of the text browsers, but there are some
> > websites which just refuse to work in any of the text browsers, and in
> > those cases unless it is something I am  required to use (IE. when I was
> > at university the portal system there was like that) I tend to look
> > elsewhere.
> >
> > Reflecting on all that, it depends what you intend to do with the
> > system, and for some purposes the possible problems/limitations aren't
> > really an issue, and gnome need not be installed so GRML would be good.
> > I can imagine that if GRML keep speakup and the software synth stuff on
> > the CD it will be a great friend to me in the future.
> >
> > From
> > Michael Whapples
> > > Hermann
> >
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