Re: [orca-list] some programmers want to contribute to orca.

Hello Kenny,

no, it is not a joke.
AT-SPI is not used by all access technologies. AT-SPI is mainly Gnome relevant. AT-SPI was the best SPI for 
accessiblity issues but it has disadvantages nowadays. 
There are discussions switching to IAccessible2 [1] or using directly dbus.
Most developer say "Yes, would be fine, but we won't do the job. Not enough manpower". Well, that is the 
point. AT-SPI should work alongside to dbus or IAccessible2 for a long time.




On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 06:47:17 -0500
Kenny Hitt <kenny hittsjunk net> wrote:


This is a joke, right?
Are you seriously suggesting to get rid of the very thing that allows Orca to work?
At-spi is used by all access technologies to get access to the desktop.

On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 01:37:15PM +0200, orca yokoy de wrote:
Hello Krishnakant,

good news, thanks.

What to do?
There are mainly a lot of small bugfixes to do, I suppose. I think you will get feedback on this list 
A big thing would be to get rid of AT-SPI. That would be a big improvement and we could use ORCA on the 
XO ($100 laptop), then. Well, AT-SPI is fine - sure - but it has a lot of dependencies with big 
fingerprints and due to that it is not usable on small devices like XO, openmoko, N700 et cetera. Even 
fast machines slow down with ORCA/AT-SPI. 
This is not a discussion KDE vs Gnome, again. We have to get rid of AT-SPI to use ORCA even on small 
devices / old computers. It would be fine if you were able to work on that issue.

just my 2 cents,


On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 12:14:02 +0530
"krishnakant Mane" <researchbase gmail com> wrote:

this email is mainly targetted towards jonie and willi and scot.
others also please put in your valued responses.
let me start by giving all a good news.
in the southern most state of india called Kerala, with the help of
state government, we have established 1600 computer centers for
visually impaired people exclusively using free software.
and the choice of screen reader is of course orca.
the state chief minister visited one of the major labs and was highly
impressed with the performance of orca.
actually it is his governments policy to only support free software.
the blind users are so dedicated that they want to use orca even
though they are aware that they will some times face problems.
infact they are ready to become testers.
one of them is already on this mailing list and his name is balaram.
any ways now for my questions.
after this success a few of my programmers who are sighted, want to
help make orca better and they want to particularly contribute to web
accessibility with firefox, and openoffice for word processing etc.

they are really good at python and also very good at the gnome desktop.
further more they had been my students so they know the accessibility
related issues pritty well.
now what should I advice them to do initially to get started?
I am telling them to read the orca documentation but one question
comes to my mind time and time again.
how important it will be for them to absolutely know every thing about at-spi?
and if yes then what should I advice them initially to do?
the main point here is that they are all sited people and unlike us
wont understand some things directly.
one of the programmers for example did a very interesting thing yesterday.
she tried to do a complete ubiquity based install by closing her eyes
and actually got success!
I had herd a couple of people doing the same thing when I was in the
state of Kerala for last 5 days.
after a couple of failed attempts they all got success in blindly
installing ubuntu by just depending on orca.
so that is how it is going but now I need to give them proper
directions as to how they can get started on the web accessibility and
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