[orca-list] FW: orcasuddenly doesn't speak

["Ian Pascoe" <softy lofty ilp btinternet com>]

Hi Will and all

Would it be possible to re-write the installing / upgrading Orca page to
presume no previous Linux / Solaris knowledge?

I am quite a competent Windows user and self taught programmer, but Linux is
just that little bit too different to make me feel comfortable with what has
to be done to do the upgrades to install either the latest "safe" Orca or
eSpeak and drivers etc, and in what order.

As an example, from the help pages you have a link to the ftp site, but no
aid in using a specific text browser to get to the download site to get the
source code or what to do with it afterwards.  I understand that to read the
page we must have a browser, but as Mike shows it may not be on a Linux
system.

Apologies for the winge.

To an aside, I'd like to thank Herman for his off list help, although I
still haven't managed to get w3m to work properly yet!

Of course, the easiest and simplest way would be for the distro, Ubuntu in
my case too, to add the upgrade into their package management system so we
didn't have to do the manual intervention, but nevertheless a challenge a
day keeps the doctor away, or something similar.

Ian

-----Original Message-----
From: orca-list-bounces gnome org [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org]On
Behalf Of Willie Walker
Sent: 02 April 2007 17:51
To: Mike Reiser
Cc: orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] orcasuddenly doesn't speak


> I'm not sure how to save them, I was in terminal at the time and didn't
> think of saving the errors I got.

If you type 'script' in a terminal, everything you type and everything
the terminal outputs will be placed in a file called 'typescript'.  To
finish the session, you need to press Ctrl+D.

> right now.  Unfortunately most people here at my college know nothing
about
> linux or computers in general.

Ah...bummer.

> Is there a way I can by using windows, take
> the ubuntu off my system and install feisty?

I don't know - I gave up on dual booting a long time ago.  Too much
trouble for my taste.  But, then again, I have more than one machine in
my office so I guess I live in the lap of luxury.

> And when you mean updating
> ubuntu to get the latest release of orca, do you mean the ubuntu that
comes
> out every 6 months?

Ubuntu Feisty regularly (just about every day) has updates available.
For the past several months, every time a development release of GNOME
was available, Ubuntu would have updates available usually within a day
or two.  At the beginning of a cycle, the development releases of GNOME
come out about every month, but then come out about every two weeks
towards the end.

> P.S I noticed that orca stops speaking at the update manager.  I'm
guessing
> this has to do with the problem of orca and gui administration?

Probably.  :-(  Setting up system administration access under GNOME can
still be struggle.  We try to outline some of it here, and it tends to
work, but always without problems:

http://live.gnome.org/Orca/SysAdmin

Will
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